Taking It Out

There are many situations in square dancing where it is common practice to remove a distortion in a formation before doing a concept/call and put back the distortion after the call is completed. This is commonly known as "taking it out" and "putting it back".

When dancers or callers say "take it out" before doing a distorted formation call, they really mean a variety of things. Taking out a distorted formation call does not mean the same thing for all situations. It varies from distorted formation to distorted formation. Sometimes "taking it out" does not require "putting it back". "Putting it back" does not need to be preceded by a previous "take out". "Putting it back" sometimes means restoring a distortion after the call is done. Sometimes it means restoring a concept's basic orientation after the call is done, for example, restoring the Once Removedness of a formation after the call is finished. Note that this is often done when there was no "take out" involved when doing some calls.

Taking a formation out and putting the formation back requires two different sets of logic -- the logic of the call and the logic of the changes in the formation structure -- lines to columns, offset weighting, location of the diagonal, maintenance of the matrix size (where appropriate) and changes in the shape of the resulting formation

This is covered in detail for the Parallelogram and for Once Removed concepts in these papers:

There are many formations where "taking it out" is regularly used. The take out is sometimes a good idea and is common usage. Some of these formations are:

Let's look at some examples of the different ways of "taking it out".

Blocks

The take out normally means that the centers move out of the center to work the call with the outside members of their block, do the call and then the resulting centers return to the original block, maintaining the diagonal. This may be different people moving back into the center than those who originally started in the center.

Example: In your block, Square Chain Thru

This call cannot be done reasonably without taking it out. However, Square Thru can and should be done without taking it out.

Staggered columns

This is a distorted column setup. The take out is to move the outsides of the stagger into a normal column, do the call, and then put back the original stagger, once again maintaining the diagonal.

Example: In your Staggered Columns, Single Transfer

A take out is not always required. For example, a Walk and Dodge doesn't require a "take out" but can be easily done in the distorted block

Big Block

This is a distorted line setup. The take out is to move the outsides of the distorted line into a normal line, do the call, and then put back the original distorted line, once again maintaining the diagonal.

Example: In Your Big Block, Single Transfer.

Many Big Block calls can only be done reasonably by taking them out.

Once Removed Formations

We'll look at three different calls to see how "take outs" and "concept establishments" are to be danced. We will not examine all the Once Removed situations because there are so many and because the Square Dancing community has not established standards for which take outs are to be used in each situation. This is covered in much more detail in the two Once Removed papers noted above.

General Comment

If there is a choice between taking it out and not taking it out, everyone in the square must do it the same way or the square will break down. The Once Removed concept is chock full of calls with multiple choices for taking it out, sometimes including a choice to not "take it out".

Stretched Line

Parallelograms and Offset Lines/Columns

These are difficult because three things must be considered in these situations:

Stable Concept

The Stable concept situation is different from "taking it out" or "putting it back". The Stable concept basically says to do the call without changing your facing direction. Many callers ignore this intent by saying, "Do the call Stable but do it normally and remember your original facing direction and and make sure youu face in that direction at the end of the call." The originator of this concept never intended that this call be used in a manner that required that this be done. The callers do it this way because they can then use any call with Stable. The Stable concept is intended to be used only with calls that can be readily danced without changing facing direction. The put back required by these callers does not return an original offset or establish concept positioning as in Once Removed. It should not be done but often is. You have to live with it.


A New Approach

Taking it out and putting it back are sometimes complicated. So are the various call/concept combinations. Wouldn't it be effective to make dancing of complicated distorted calls and formations less difficult?

Here's how:

Don't expect dancers to take out easy calls like Circulate from Parallelograms and most Stretched Line calls. Dancers must be expected to do the simple calls, then expand into the more difficult calls and concepts when their skills improve. This will get the dancers used to dancing in distorted formations. When they can handle simple distortions, the more difficult distortions will not be a problem. The dancer's mind set will change. Challenge dancing requires distortions. If dancing from distorted formations is not to be done, then remove distortions from challenge dancing completely. If dancers take out the simplest calls, they will never learn to handle the difficult calls.

Telling the dancers to take out distortions is self defeating. The callers are then telling the dancers that there is really no such a thing as distorted formation dancing, only distorted setups which are then danced normally.

Aren't the callers really saying that calls requiring "take outs" are too hard to do without taking it out first? Doesn't this sound silly?

Over the years, some very interesting choreography and positioning has been developed. A lot of inventiveness and cleverness went into this work. At the same time, others devised take outs and cheats to counter all the clever choreography and positioning. Now we are left with a mess. We have definitions for calls and formations that the callers are telling us to ignore. Silliness reigns.

We now have a situation where dancers want to take everything out automatically. My favorite is beginning double pass thru from parallelogram columns where the call is centers Pass Thru. One of the dancers wanted the formation taken out. Extreme? Sure. But indicative of what has taken place.

Conclusion

"Taking it out" is a cheat. Cheats are present in square dancing because dancers don't want to learn how to dance the call from unusual positions, e.g., Left Allemande, Promenade, or won't learn the proper way to execute a call or concept. If the square dance community is condoning "cheats", then let's all get into the game and condone all the cheats, including the grand cheat "taking it out".