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Jay Novak jnovak6@wideopenwest.com FF National Run Group 1. F500 should run with FFords all the time in Nationals. This will give us INSTANT credibility & will immediately bring new blood into the class (my opinion only) This is a tough sell for the Ford guys but the Vee guys are on our side & the SCCA can be sold on this. It will also force us to get better.

Jay Novak jnovak6@wideopenwest.com Kawasaki overbore 2. Allow the overbore of the Kawasaki to close to 500cc. I think that Weisco makes a 480cc piston. Sleeve or nikasil the cylinders. Have to decide whether it needs twin pipes or single pipe, NO PORTING WORK. Weight TBD. This may not mean much but it will bring out more than a few cars into road racing for very little $$$. MORE CARS.

Jay Novak jnovak6@wideopenwest.com AMW Mikuni Carb allowance 3. Allow new intake manifolds & regular 38mm Mikuni carbs on the AMW engine. Again very little cost & it will bring some cars out of the garage. MORE CARS.

Jay Novak jnovak6@wideopenwest.com Recommend Electric Start 4. GCR should recommend electric start, but not require it. This is a credibility issue but will cost some money but it is not huge. Someone will figure out a cheap kit

Jay Novak jnovak6@wideopenwest.com Allow Removal of Pull Starter 5. Allow for the removal of the pull starter if you want it. This saves a little weight when you have electric start & will allow for better pipe packaging.

Jay Novak jnovak6@wideopenwest.com Allow Removal of Thermostat 6. Get rid of the totally meaningless thermostat rule. These engines do not need it & it is a waste of money. Also allow any cooling plumbing that works. Who needs all the BS extra hoses on the 493. MAKE LIFE SIMPLER

Jay Novak jnovak6@wideopenwest.com Allow Anti-Roll Bars 7. Allow for the use of VERY simple steel bar stock or tubing only anti-roll bars. They can be bent or have welded lever ends on the roll bars. NO ON BOARD OR BLADE TYPE ADJUSTMENTS. This will help the handling of the cars & make them more adjustable for VERY LITTLE COST. BETTER HANDLING CARS.

Jay Novak jnovak6@wideopenwest.com Allow Longer Suspension Rubbers 8. The stresses on the suspension springing rubbers are much higher than any of the materials are meant for. This causes the setups of the cars to be inconsistent. The solution is to allow for longer spring rubbers. What this will do is significantly lower the stresses on the rubbers and all the suspension bits. It will make the suspension setups MUCH more repeatable and easy to set up & get the cars right. It will not add any cost at all as the system will not require the very carefully machined plungers and receivers. The costs might actually go down. I have tested these elastomers on shock dynos & it will work for next to nothing. I even have a manufacturer who will supply a very consistent part very inexpensively. I will supply parts and engineering assistance for FREE to anyone who has a serious interest in giving this a try. BETTER MORE CONSISTENT CARS.

John Whitling alliancemillsoft@att.net 13" wheeels 9. 13" wheels will make tire suppliers happy, and make our cars less "bastard". In addition we should get more consistant handling. Even Formula SAE don't use the 10" wheels. It could be phased in over a two year period.

david wilson dwilson@rollxvans.com kawasaki porting 10. allow kawasaki porting & require them to run a single pipe or maybe keep twin pipes depending upon performance

Neal Spieler Neal98@aol.com Drop 50 pound penalty for 493 11. Drop the 50 pound weight increase from the 493 engine. after a year it's obvious the the 493 is no faster then the 494. The 50 pound weight penalty is absolutely KILLING new engine sales. Nobody wants to pay more to go slower!

Bill Schmidt jschmidt@kumc.edu Wheelbase limits 12. Change the rules to read "minimum wheelbase 78 inches, no maximum stated." Our cars have difficulty keeping weight down to minimum levels, so if I want to build a 81" wheelbase car, I feel I should be able to do that.

Bill Schmidt jschmidt@kumc.edu width limits 13. Change the rules to read, " minimum width measured at outside of tires 50" with maximum of 60". We could get away from the measurement calipers at solo nationals. We need to put the wide tires on the front without modifying a-arms or buying expensive custom-made wheels. Wide front tires are essential for solo, but not for road racing.

Bill Schmidt jschmidt@kumc.edu carbon-fiber wheels 14. Allow use of carbon fiber wheels for our cars. The prices have come down dramatically over the years and are a lot stronger than they used to be. ATV racers use them, as do F1 and micro-sprint cars.

Bill Schmidt jschmidt@kumc.edu 494 rave motor 15. Allow 494 rave motors to be used. Allow a non rave cylinder liner to be used with the rave cylinders. This would help out in a plentiful supply of used motors.

Bill Schmidt jschmidt@kumc.edu exhaust pipes 16. Allow all legal engines to run either 2 into 1 pipe exhause system or run twin pipes. I dont see the strict requirement we have now as serving any real purpose, other than another restrictive rule that is not necessary.

jim elder jmelder@bellsouth.net reinstall balance tube on 493 engines 17. the engine was designed to run with it.since the removal the cars have a driveability issue.they hesitate and bogs in high speed turns.

Charlie Schlismann racegt6@yahoo.com Reduce 493 penalty to 25 lbs. 18. Consider an interim, compromise weight reduction of 25 lbs. on 493 powered cars. Re-examine the weight penalty after one year. This may mollify some with 494 engines yet still provide some incentive to invest in the 493-the new engine of TODAY.

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name	email	item	desc
Jay Novak	jnovak6@wideopenwest.com	FF National Run Group	1. F500 should run with FFords all the time in Nationals. This will give us INSTANT credibility & will immediately bring new blood into the class (my opinion only) This is a tough sell for the Ford guys but the Vee guys are on our side & the SCCA can be sold on this. It will also force us to get better.
Jay Novak	jnovak6@wideopenwest.com	Kawasaki overbore	2. Allow the overbore of the Kawasaki to close to 500cc. I think that Weisco makes a 480cc piston. Sleeve or nikasil the cylinders. Have to decide whether it needs twin pipes or single pipe, NO PORTING WORK. Weight TBD. This may not mean much but it will bring out more than a few cars into road racing for very little $$$. MORE CARS.
Jay Novak	jnovak6@wideopenwest.com	AMW Mikuni Carb allowance	3. Allow new intake manifolds & regular 38mm Mikuni carbs on the AMW engine. Again very little cost & it will bring some cars out of the garage. MORE CARS.
Jay Novak	jnovak6@wideopenwest.com	Recommend Electric Start	4. GCR should recommend electric start, but not require it. This is a credibility issue but will cost some money but it is not huge. Someone will figure out a cheap kit
Jay Novak	jnovak6@wideopenwest.com	Allow Removal of Pull Starter	5. Allow for the removal of the pull starter if you want it. This saves a little weight when you have electric start & will allow for better pipe packaging.
Jay Novak	jnovak6@wideopenwest.com	Allow Removal of Thermostat	6. Get rid of the totally meaningless thermostat rule. These engines do not need it & it is a waste of money. Also allow any cooling plumbing that works. Who needs all the BS extra hoses on the 493. MAKE LIFE SIMPLER
Jay Novak	jnovak6@wideopenwest.com	Allow Anti-Roll Bars	7. Allow for the use of VERY simple steel bar stock or tubing only anti-roll bars. They can be bent or have welded lever ends on the roll bars. NO ON BOARD OR BLADE TYPE ADJUSTMENTS. This will help the handling of the cars & make them more adjustable for VERY LITTLE COST. BETTER HANDLING CARS.
Jay Novak	jnovak6@wideopenwest.com	Allow Longer Suspension Rubbers	8. The stresses on the suspension springing rubbers are much higher than any of the materials are meant for. This causes the setups of the cars to be inconsistent. The solution is to allow for longer spring rubbers. What this will do is significantly lower the stresses on the rubbers and all the suspension bits. It will make the suspension setups MUCH more repeatable and easy to set up & get the cars right. It will not add any cost at all as the system will not require the very carefully machined plungers and receivers. The costs might actually go down. I have tested these elastomers on shock dynos & it will work for next to nothing. I even have a manufacturer who will supply a very consistent part very inexpensively. I will supply parts and engineering assistance for FREE to anyone who has a serious interest in giving this a try. BETTER MORE CONSISTENT CARS.
John Whitling	alliancemillsoft@att.net	13" wheeels	9. 13" wheels will make tire suppliers happy, and make our cars less "bastard". In addition we should get more consistant handling. Even Formula SAE don't use the 10" wheels. It could be phased in over a two year period.
david wilson	dwilson@rollxvans.com	kawasaki porting	10. allow kawasaki porting & require them to run a single pipe or maybe keep twin pipes depending upon performance
Neal Spieler	Neal98@aol.com	Drop 50 pound penalty for 493	11. Drop the 50 pound weight increase from the 493 engine. after a year it's obvious the the 493 is no faster then the 494. The 50 pound weight penalty is absolutely KILLING new engine sales. Nobody wants to pay more to go slower!
Bill Schmidt	jschmidt@kumc.edu	Wheelbase limits	12. Change the rules to read "minimum wheelbase 78 inches, no maximum stated." Our cars have difficulty keeping weight down to minimum levels, so if I want to build a 81" wheelbase car, I feel I should be able to do that.
Bill Schmidt	jschmidt@kumc.edu	width limits	13. Change the rules to read, " minimum width measured at outside of tires 50" with maximum of 60". We could get away from the measurement calipers at solo nationals. We need to put the wide tires on the front without modifying a-arms or buying expensive custom-made wheels. Wide front tires are essential for solo, but not for road racing.
Bill Schmidt	jschmidt@kumc.edu	carbon-fiber wheels	14. Allow use of carbon fiber wheels for our cars. The prices have come down dramatically over the years and are a lot stronger than they used to be. ATV racers use them, as do F1 and micro-sprint cars.
Bill Schmidt	jschmidt@kumc.edu	494 rave motor	15. Allow 494 rave motors to be used. Allow a non rave cylinder liner to be used with the rave cylinders. This would help out in a plentiful supply of used motors.
Bill Schmidt	jschmidt@kumc.edu	exhaust pipes	16. Allow all legal engines to run either 2 into 1 pipe exhause system or run twin pipes. I dont see the strict requirement we have now as serving any real purpose, other than another restrictive rule that is not necessary.
jim elder	jmelder@bellsouth.net	reinstall balance tube on 493 engines	17. the engine was designed to run with it.since the removal the cars have a driveability issue.they hesitate and bogs in high speed turns.
Charlie Schlismann	racegt6@yahoo.com	Reduce 493 penalty to 25 lbs.	18. Consider an interim, compromise weight reduction of 25 lbs. on 493 powered cars. Re-examine the weight penalty after one year. This may mollify some with 494 engines yet still provide some incentive to invest in the 493-the new engine of TODAY.
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