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Product Warnings about rebates and/or use of products   A   B 6/20/04 Bondo Rebates Warning: I just wanted to let you all know I talked to Bondo today regarding all the rejects for non-qualifying stores. This information isn't on the forms and they only sell to certain stores and give them the rebate forms but somehow they do give the forms to wholesalers who purchase Bondo products. In others words you have no way of knowing what stores are qualifying. My suggestion is that if you are going to buy there products, check with Bondo first at 1 800 622-8754 and the lady I talked to was Melody or something similar to that to find out what stores qualify and if they have a current rebate offer. I will put this on my website (email me at noknots@gte.net) for it if you want the site link, on the Rebates that Don't Pay Page. I find that many of the offers that go through the Scottsdale AZ center find excuses to refuse rebates. 10/31/04 Brandmovers Rebate offers that go to Atlanta GA (Rice a Roni, Quaker Oats Cereal Bars, Beringer Wines $15 offers) do not pay unless you buy them in the store that you find the forms and in the city you find them. C 6/20/04 Clearasil Movie Deal '03 & '05: 6.5 size Daily Face Wash 8-39977-00502 -8; 6.5 oz. Oil Free Sensitive Skin 8-39977-00501-1, $4.49 - $4.99 - these are the code ones unless you get into the Total control. I haven't seen the forms yet but someone sent me these new number. The prefix on the old one is different so I assume someone else has taken them over. D 6/20/04 Devionshire Irish Cream $3 is sending back refunds box closed that is suppose to close in Janauary 2004. I talked to the PA Liquor commission and they are known for not paying their rebates. If you have any info on who to call please email me. DON'T DO THESE REBATE, THEY DON'T PAY 6/20/04 Do NOT buy Dollar Store toothpaste. (6/17/2004 3:07:12 PM):  This is from snopes.com and has been determined to be true. Subject: Dollar Store Toothpaste(s) I don't know if any of you watched Channel 5 News last night, but they did an investigation on dollar stores (including Dollar Tree, Greenbacks & 99 Cents). They discovered the Crest, Colgate and other brand name toothpastes weren't the same as from Wal-mart, grocery stores etc. The toothpastes were manufactured in many other countries and are not approved by the American Dental Association (ADA). There was even some from South Africa and the fluoride is ten times stronger than what we're allowed in the U.S. (prescription strength). They're allowed stronger because they don't have fluoridated water (like we do). So if we (or our kids) use it often and occasionally swallow it, we could be poisoning ourselves. The dollar stores declined to comment and a full investigation has begun. So stick to paying full-price at the grocery store and send this e-mail to anyone who shops at dollar stores. E 10/3/04 by Jane Goldberg News from Jane Goldberg article on ethromycin - be ware!! It's quite common for people to pop antibiotics for any illness, especially the colds and flu with which they're suffering. But a recent study found the use of erythromycin can significantly increase the risk of a severe heart attack when it is taken by someone who is also taking high blood pressure medicine and other medications for other infections. The drug has been on the market and has been considered safe for the last 50 years, BUT when it was invented, the chemists couldn't anticipate the reactions use of the drug could cause, since today's newer medicines had not yet been created. Another troubling fact is that when taken alone (without the presence of any other medications known now to increase the risk of heart attack) the drug has been shown to raise the risk of a heart attack too, but not to the degree that it does when taken by someone who is using other medicines. The following is a list of the other medicines that when taken with erythromycin spell trouble: For high blood pressure: Verelan, Isoptin, Cardizem, Tiazec. For infection: Biaxin (for various things), Diflucan (yeast infection trtmt), Ketoconozole (Nizoral) and Itraconozole (Sporonox) these last two are prescribed for toenail fungus.  How much greater is your risk of severe heart attack if you take erythromycin in conjunction w/any of these other drugs? Five times greater than if you hadn't taken the suspect antibiotic. The typical length of time one takes erythromycin is 14 days. During that time, those w/known heart disease should be especially careful not to stress the heart, or engage in other behaviors that might lead to a heart attack. This is NOT TO SAY those with no known heart disease are safe, but their risk is somewhat lower than those who already have heart problems. A large number of general practice (family doctors) don't really spend a lot of time reading the results of clinical trials in specialty fields of medicine, so it's up to you to ensure you know the risks associated with taking erythromycin. There are some other lethal combinations you should avoid when taking erythromycin: protease inhibitors (AIDS trtmt) and don't drink grapefruit juice when taking the medicine. How does the risk occur? Some of the newer medicines slow down the breakdown of the erythromycin. this increase the concentration of the drug in the system. "At these increased levels it traps salt inside the resting heart muscle cells, prolonging the time until the next heartbeat starts, and sometimes triggering arrhythmia" When taken w/Verelan, Isoptin, Cardizem or Tiazec the erythromycin causes the heart to beat even slower than it's supposed to by (with the use of) the above mentioned mentioned blood pressure medicines. *Democrat Pg 1 & 2, 9/9/04 What are a patient's alternatives? So far, Amoxocillin seems to be a good choice; there is NO cardiac risk when this drug is taken. G   7/18/04 CPSC, SC Johnson Announce Recall of Glade® Extra Outlet Scented Oil Air Fresheners WASHINGTON,D.C.- In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), SC Johnson, of Racine, Wisc., is voluntarily recalling about 2.5 million Glade® Extra Outlet Scented Oil Air Fresheners. These Extra Outlet PlugIns® may have been misassembled during manufacture, which could pose a risk of fire. SC Johnson has received five reports of misassembly and no reports of injury or property damage. The Glade® Extra Outlet Scented Oil electric air fresheners come in two fragrances, Sky Breeze™ and Mystical Garden™. The air fresheners have a unique rotating plug-thru outlet, which allows other electrical devices to be used in the same outlet as the plug-in. The rotating outlet says "15 Amps Max" on the front and has a yellow disk on the back. The Extra Outlet Scented Oil units have a model number "SCJ079" on the back. No other products, sold under the Glade® PlugIns® brand names, are part of the recall. 6/20/04 Geocel Ultimate Rebates Warning: The forms do not way store specific but they are assigned to a store like Menards so they are refusing them or sending you $1. No place on the form does it say a specific store.   P 8/14/05 Pacific Wine Partners are now sending out certified letters that have an affidavit in them for you to fill out to get your rebates, their products are: Blackstone, Barossa, Banrock Station, Black Box, Hardy, Nobilo, Seventh moon, Twin Fin, Blackstone Seafood $4 MIR, Banrock Station MIR, Hardy's $2 off meat 11/11/04 Pepsi Rebates to YA or Silverdome Address: I've been on the phone for about a half an hour today going from Pepsi to distribution centers to customer service to finally consumer affairs. Here is what I found out. The Pepsi forms, internet include that go to the Silverdome address are restricted to only MI people. If you don't see it on the form, it was a mistake and they will send you a letter that only MI residents are honored because its the distributors in MI that are offering these rebates. The number I called was 1 800 790-2119. I finally got through to a Pepsi Consumer Relations and talked for a very nice person there and on the Pepsi/Lays $5 Holiday promotion, the phone number is not working to answer questions because it hasn't been opened yet because the offer really doesn't start until 11/21/04 thr 12/29/04 and must be postmarked by 1/15/05. She was going to put in a request that it be opened right away because the forms have gone out and are up before the offer time. Their number is 1 800 433-2652 but you have to go through and get an operator because they first talk about another promotion and then refer you to their site. They will take all Pepsi products, not just the Fridgemate upcs (these have 12 digit upcs) but the older type boxes with the eight digit upc numbers. 6/27/04 NOTICE: A trader CALLED ABOUT THIS AND WAS TOLD IT IS ONLY GOOD IN MI. Pepsi $5 Rebate, 40 Silverdome Industrial Park, Pontiac, MI 48342. $5. Send 3 UPCs from 12 packs or 2 UPCs from 12 packs of 16.9 oz bottles of any combination of the following: Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, Caffeine Free Pepsi, Caffeine Free Diet Pepsi, WIld Cherry Pepsi, Mt. Dew, Diet Mountain Dew, Sierra Mist and/or Aquafina. Send a DCRTC (dtd by 3-8-05). The form says you can send the mail in certificate or your NAZ on a 3 x 5 card. Req'd store form Rec'd by 3/18/2005 Phone: 1 800 790-2119 Monday Thru Friday 9-5 EST 10/4/04 Update "How the Terrorists are defrauding the Manufacturers by Submitting Coupons" by Jane Goldberg about Every once in a while, dozens of refunders receive scary letters from either the post office or the Coupon Information Center, in Alexandria, VA. These letters are usually signed by Bud Miller of the CIC. I went to their site the other day, to see if they were in the midst of any investigations and I got the following information: The CIC is an organization that is self supported by these and other manufacturers:  Bayer Consumer Care; Bristol-Myers Squibb Company; Brown & Williamson Tobacco Corporation; Colgate-Palmolive Company; Commonwealth Brands, Inc.; General Mills, Inc.; The Gillette Company; Hershey Foods; Johnson & Johnson; Kellogg Company; Kimberly-Clark Corporation; Kraft Foods; Lorillard Tobacco Company; McCormick & Company, Inc.; Nestle USA, Inc.; Pfizer; The Procter & Gamble Company; Quaker Oats Company; R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company; S.C. Johnson & Son, Inc.; Unilever Bestfoods; Unilever HPC. © 2004 CIC The member companies employ Mr. Miller and anyone working for him in an effort to protect themselves from the misredemption of authentic coupons, the fraudulent use of counterfeit coupons, the illegal redemption of coupons both real and counterfeit (usually by stores or people posing as store owners). Oftentimes refunders look upon Bud Miller and the CIC as the enemy, but honestly, they re not the enemy when people use coupons the lawful way. This is not to say the aggressive use of coupons is wrong-it isn't wrong, nor is it illegal. the following are examples of illegal misredemption of coupons: The tendering of counterfeit coupons (very obvious, I'd say), Using 2 MANUFACTURER coupons on the same one item. You MAY use one mfr c/o and one store c/o at the same time on the same item and not violate any rule or law. HOWEVER quite often the stores don't understand this and prohibit you from using both. When this occurs, you should get the home office telephone address and write up a complaint.  What is the illegal use of coupons? This section probably won't come up in your use of coupons, but it was interesting to research: Robert MacDonald, who had a position in a coupon clearinghouse and whose decisions regarding a store or store chain's eligibility to redeem coupons, used his position to accept for redemption an amount greater than $50 million worth of coupons for ABC Co. Inc. ABC represented itself as a small chain of convenience stores (but that could not sell the large amount of product for which it was redeeming the coupons). Mr. MacDonald accepted bribes from ABC for his compliance in this scheme, including the purchase (for him) by ABC of a retirement home in Florida. In addition, he accepted bribes in an amount in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Here is how he used his position as a commission based coupon sales manager for International Data. (This is the refund/coupon clearinghouse that used to be in Riverton, NJ but is now in El Paso, TX), to scam the manufacturers and by extension, us, the consumers: The nature of MacDonald's job was such that he got a higher salary (based on commission) for the successful processing of coupons from small, independent stores. Thus, even if he wasn't receiving bribes from ABC and it's owners, one of whom is Abdel Rahim Jebara. And if you think for a minute this money wasn't going to fund the Muslim terrorists, THINK AGAIN! We paid for their greed and thievery and we paid to have our own people killed by simply buying groceries! This is sickening! But for the efforts of Bud Miller, the CIC and the manufacturers who comprise the CIC, who knows how much more than $50 million they would have stolen????? Anyway, sorry about my soapbox, but I hate those animals; they're not human, they're evil! If I've offended you, sorry you're offended, but I believe they are baseless, soulless animals! Back to the story...There is no reference to an inside informant, but from what I've read at their website I believe the informant was another Int'l Data employee who did not like what was happening in regard to the ABC account. I think this is how the CIC, the FBI and got the evidence on MacDonald.      "The evidence against defendant MacDonald includes: 1) hundreds of monitored telephone calls between Abdel Rahim              Jebara and other coconspirators, including several such calls involving Mr. MacDonald and Jebara, conducted over a 90  day period from October, 2002 to January 2003 during which they discussed matters related to Jebara's coupon fraud scheme; 2) coupon redemption checks and other documents obtained by federal grand jury subpoena;              3) documentary and other evidence seized at defendant MacDonald's Memphis, Tennessee residence and workplace, which was the International Data/IOS office, and dozens of other locations during the execution of search warrants on February 26, 2003; and 4) interviews with other persons with knowledge. This and other evidence shows that defendant MacDonald facilitated Abdel Rahim Jebara's coupon fraud conspiracy beginning in about 1999, and further facilitated John  Doe A's ABC, Inc.'s similar conspiracy beginning in about 1998.  ©CIC 2004 How much did MacDonald know about what ABC Co. Inc. and it's owner(s)? From MacDonald's sworn statement in his guilty plea he finally admits he knew that ABC wasn't even a real store, let alone a small chain of convenience stores. Additionally, another ID employee approached McD to tell him he was suspicious about the nature of ABC in so far as whether they were an actual store or a person(s) masquerading as a store. By the time the ID employee voiced his suspicious to McD, Mcd was already so far into Jebara's (ABC's) pocket, he wasn't about to let another employee take away his free ride. Over time the employee continued to complain to McD about ABC and his suspicions about the sheer volume of coupon submissions and their status as a (real) store. Time and again, McD blew him off, claiming he had everything under control and was sure they were legit. yeah, right! In an effort to ward off continued inquiries from his fellow employee, McD began cautioning Jebara not to submit so many coupons from any single 'store.' Defendant MacDonald discovered that "Jose" was submitting coupons for processing using a fraudulent store, but nonetheless continued to deal with him. Defendant MacDonald would caution "Jose" about submitting too many coupons, and would instruct him not to submit more than a certain number of pounds from each store, so that "Jose's" stores would not  be suspected of coupon fraud.  © CIC 2004 By now he knew everything about Jebara and ABC but was so consumed by greed he let it go on and on till, I assume, the ID employee finally called someone who could stop the scheme. Law enforcement tapped the phone (see pg 12) to get all of the evidence on McD and Jebara. And thank G-d! But why on earth did the ID employee wait till they'd stolen so much money? That's what I'd like to know!  What did MacDonald gain through all of this? A small fortune from both the terrorists and his own company who was paying him on commission for the amount of coupons redeemed by his 'legit' stores. He also received a free trip to India-yum!-NOT! and that new house located in the township of The Villages in central Florida. Oh, yeah, he also got this: Five years in federal prison, and, upon his release, three years of supervised 'freedom' and a fine of $250.000. An additional $100,000 is also levied against him-this is a mandatory assessment (but on what grounds, I don't know). He will likely be ordered to pay a portion of $50,000,000 back to the companies from which he and Jebara stole the money. I assume Jebara isn't in federal custody...but I don't know. If and when he is caught he will be liable to make up the difference between the amount of restitution McD has paid and the actual amount of money stolen. I doubt the US government will be able to get Jebara into custody from India where he has undoubtedly go to hide! COWARD! Under what laws was McD charged? The laws he broke are: Title 18 Sections 1001, 1341 and 1343 wire and mail fraud in connection with the scheme. In exchange for his guilty plea, and his cooperation, the government is dropping the remaining charges against him. Done! Finally! This was a long and complex article, but I hope you've enjoyed it! I'm also glad I'm not in MacDonald's shoes, that's for sure! Note from me: I've heard of a couple people getting the letters again. V 10/3/04 If you are taking Vioxx please be aware that Merk has recalled it and is taking it off the market. If you have some at home please contact your doctor and don't take them. W 6/27/04 One of my form suppliers frequently runs into problems with cashiers who refuse to take her coupons. None of them are ever from the internet; they're usually wine hangtags but sometimes they're from the newspaper or the blinky box coupon dispensers. Recently she tried to buy the .89¢ Chinet Classic white plates, 15 count at Wal-Mart. She had 75¢ c/os from the blinky machines. The cashier refused to take a single one of them, saying they were from Winn Dixie and they didn't accept W/D coupons (which is wrong; they do take their competitor's coupons). Nothing she did or said would make the manager accept the coupons. So she phoned the Chinet company. She reports, "I complained to Chinet that Wal-Mart would not accept the coupons from the Smart Source machines using the statement these coupons were not really manufacturer's coupons. The lady I spoke with apologized and said she would speak with the Wal-Mart rep about this problem. She sent me 5 free coupons for Chinet products each one up to $4.99. While Chinet was really nice to her, she still didn't think Wal-Mart's employees were correct, so she phoned News Marketing America, the company that puts the boxes in the stores. They explained that Wal-Mart is not one of their customers and they will not be paid on them. I don't know if the Chinet rep is aware of this yet as she was under the impression that everyone honors them. Wow! A cashier and store manager whose coupon refusal and reasoning that was actually correct! News America explains that only those stores that have a contract with them (News America) will get paid if the blinky coupons are accepted at their registers. So, any time you pass one of these at a store, that if that store isn't a participating store, the store loses the entire value of the coupon, plus the expected 08¢, plus the labor costs in tallying up the coupons and sending them to the clearinghouse.