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I've often thought that Bobbi's post on the NVBrothels message board and John1's in many instances were made by the same
person. I have thought that for awhile now, but have never posted it. Recently Kellycious, a NVBrothels poster, in response
to John1 said that someone had informed her through the inbox function that John1 and Bobbi were the same posters. I do not
know who informed her of that. I then in boxed her that I also thought this to be true but had no confirmation on it. This
lead to some heated discussions on NVBrothels. Below is my participation in all of this.
Why does any of this matter? It probably doesn't. Several posters use multiple handles. Sometimes for fun sometimes to
flame without having to identify yourself. In Bobbi's case, I believe her use was to promote her Brothel and also to hurt
other Brothels. Bobbi and I have had several heated discusions. In many of these she would be supported by John1. Mostly John1
confirming her opinions whether true or not. This just makes the readers aware of what can go on. From thier they can come
to thier own conclusions.
newModerator (207 posts)
Sep-30, 07:13 PM (CST)
"Ladies what's up with all the post by john1 moved from general"
LAST EDITED ON Sep-30 AT 07:13 PM (CST)
john1 (157 posts)
Sep-30, 07:09 PM (CST)
"Ladies what's up with all the"
Tattoos One lady at the chicken Ranch looks more like she should be in a side show than in a brothel she has so many,
and there is a girl at sherris that has a big flower on her belly. I rememeber when the houses like Sherris and chicken Ranch
would not hire ladies with Tattoos. There is also lady at sherris with some kind of name written on her hip /belly. that was
always a sign she belong to a pimp as pimps mark what belongs to them. Sherris is suposse to be a high end brothel at least
they are charging high end prices. so why would they hire girls with pimps and with flowers growing up their bellys.
Kelly's apology post
Kellycious (765 posts)
Sep-30, 09:00 PM (CST)
"Apology to Bobbi"
I have in no way tried to put the blame of a troller on Bobbi. If anyone reads the threads concerning it, know that is
not my intention. I have nothing but respect for the woman and her House. I put into the posting the fact that there were
accusations about her being made behind her back to me. I did it publicly so that she can address it in front of those who
accused her.
I apologize to Bobbi, if SHE feels I caused her unfair embarrassment or insulted her in anyway. I do not apologize to
the evil troll that started the whole incident. That thing needs to slither back to his own board.
I responded to that thread with the following comments
I don't know if Bobbi and John1 are the same people or not..I know several people have suggested that to me for quite awhile
now. Including a lady that once worked at Shadylady. If you read some of the past post, especially those in dealing with the
ShadyLady, you will find that their post are very similar in the content and style. I have never mentioned it on the board
because, like I say I have no confirmation of this. I suspose the posters will have to make their own conclusions.
Pat
Bobbi inboxed Kelly and asked her who said it. Kelly told her who the original informer was and what did I tell her. At this
time she also inboxed me with the following message.
well, I am calling her out as nicely as possible. She can now OPPOSE this ass hole or catch my shit.
I then got this inbox from Kelly.
Dont be mad, but I have to handle her diplomaticlly since i never know when I may need to go to another house. I DO want to
let her know publicly that she is not fooling people if this is really her. Thanks for your info.
Kelly
That led to Bobbi and someone posting as john1 to start posting that I was to blame for causing all this trouble. This is
the thread I am talking about.
SHADYLADYRANCH (1178 posts)
Oct-01, 02:42 PM (CST) 5. "RE: similarities"
Thank you Chay, we have Pat to think for this.
www.shadyladyranch.com
There were several other threads on this. They are below
Sidewinder talking out his ass
SIDEWINDER (8371 posts)
Oct-04, 08:33 AM (CST)
"Got a question for ya Pat"
John 1
Where did you get this information? From the bathroom wall at the Greyhound bus station in Portland?
Maybe, you should have checked all the other stalls. I'll bet You could have found some more factual information on LPIN!
Why not go back and look and then post what you find!
LOL
Bobbi makes a challenge
SHADYLADYRANCH (1010 posts)
Oct-04, 09:07 PM (CST)
" You got the proof Pat Sherry Posion"
LAST EDITED ON Oct-04 AT 09:10 PM (CST)
You got proof that I am john one then post it.
Or shut the fuck up
www.shadyladyranch.com
Chay Chimes in
Chay (3864 posts)
Oct-03, 11:19 PM (CST)
"Why Not Say I am John1"
LAST EDITED ON Oct-04 AT 09:01 PM (CST)
LAST EDITED ON Oct-04 AT 00:11 AM (CST) by BS Moderator (moderator)
Everyone
This is bullshit what y'all are doing to Bobbi..... I miss spell words and my wording is all wrong sometimes....Why not
post on the board that Chay is posting by the names...
John1
Shadylady
Bobbi
One of the ladies that saying all this stuff about Bobbi got fired from the ShadyLady for Drugs....
Unless Pat ask the webmaster where john1 is posting from....He would not know either....If the webmaster told him where
it came from....Then Posters I would get worried that anyone on this board can find out who you are and where you are...That
is not right
Bobbi has no reason to talk about the girls at Sheri's....Sheri's send her girls that are not doing good at there place....Why
would Bobbi do that????? The Manger was at Bobbi's BBQ....
What Bobbi knows about Sheri's came from me....what she knows about the CR came from me....Because she is a owner of a
brothel y'all are going to give her shit over it....
When She found out I was sick Bobbi was there for me and so was some good people from here were there for me....And I
don't mean a cold either.... I had surgery for why I was sick...and then I went back in to have another one a year later....
Why don't you say it is me...I miss spell....I don't word my shit on here right sometimes.....
Chay
Bobbi Still in Denial
SHADYLADYRANCH (1178 posts)
Oct-01, 07:39 PM (CST)
"Pat stop inboxing me"
LAST EDITED ON Oct-01 AT 07:43 PM (CST)
leave me alone if you keep this up I will turn all your nasty little Emails and inboxes over to the webmaster you started
this shit.
www.shadyladyranch.com
While these threads were going on Kelly sent me another inbox.
Like Bobbi? Hell ,i do not even know her. My initial posting was to flush her out, IF she is John1. It was also to make sure
she knew that IF she is the one, plenty of people are on to her. I must admit, I got reallyp issed at John1 when I normally
woyld have nbeen a lot cooler. I realize now I was coming down with food poisoning (great cook here) because not long after
all that I was sick for the remainder of the night and all this day.
As insane as I was temporarily, I tried to handel her with diplomacy because I never know where I may have to go after
CP2. But, all I can say is I tried to get her to respect the fact that of all the people slamming her behind her back, you
posted honestly to her Thread and only posted the same to me. She should give you some credit.
By the way, I think she was pissed over the postings on how you found affordable pussy at Mabel's. She is clearly trying
to make everyone think her house is the cheapest. But, I know I meet or beat her house prices often and so do the girls at
Mabel's. You just can't be honest here without pissing off someone. But i hope you keep it up, I find a lot of value in your
website and send newbies who write me in provate to it all the time.
I am off to eat crackers, have a good night.
Kelly
During this time the webmaster contacted me. This is the Email he sent me.
Reply-To: "Webmaster" <webmaster@nvbrothels.net>
To: "easy 728" <easy728@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: jimmycricket equals AXL
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:13:53 -0700
Pat,
Thanks for letting me know about axl. I have disabled jimmycricket's account.
Bobbi from the Shady Lady has been sending me a lot of emails about your inbox and forum discussions with her. She metioned
that you called her john1 in one of the messages. I would appreciate it if you let this issue blow over. Bobbi is very
upset over this, and I think she is close to leaving the site.
Regards,
Nolan
I emailed him back with the following message.
Bobbi is the one that started the Inboxing..I just responded to her. I did call her John1 in my last response to her.That
is the only one I did it in. She was calling me asshole and other names. She has made several post on the board making accusations
about me..She has threatened Poison according to the inbox I got from Poison. She knows i did not start this stuff about her..I
have inboxes from Kelly stating that Kelly told her it wasn't me who caused her to make the original post about Bobbi being
John1. I have not started any post about her being John1..If you read the post on the subject you can see exactly what I said.
That was the same thing I sent to kelly after Kelly initially made the comments about Bobbi being John1. I will not start
anything on the board but if Bobbi post something I will respond to it when she is accusing me. Can you deny or verify that
bobbi isn't John1?
Pat
This was his next reply
Pat,
I only knew one side of the story. I am glad to know the rest of the events. This makes things more clear.I originally
thought the ShadyLadyRanch was using multiple usernames such as john1, mel717, and boy wonder back in January, 2002. Bobbi
explanined to me that john and mel were workers at the ranch who shared the house computer. They all had the same IP address
because the used the same computer, and they all posted positive things about the ShadyLady because they all work there.
Bobbi has made similar claims in her recent emails to me yesterday. I do not know for certain whether this is true or not,
and I am not sure how I could be certain. One way to check if they were the same person would be to look for unique spelling
and grammatical errors that were made by both posters.
Regards,
Nolan
The next message I got from Nolan was this.
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Webmaster" <webmaster@nvbrothels.net>
Reply-To: "Webmaster" <webmaster@nvbrothels.net>
To: "easy 728" <easy728@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bobbi and John1
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:34:49 -0700
Pat, I just got off the phone with Bobbi from the Shady Lady. She is still quite upset. She tells me that John1 is
a trick from Vegas who periodically visits the ranch and posts from the ranch. I looked up my previous emails with Bobbi
from January, 2002 about john1, mel717, and other shady lady ranch IP address posters. In these emails, Bobbi mentioned that
workers were posting from the house computer, but did not explicitly say that john1
was an employee. Bobbi also told me that she lost one of her girls over this issue. I believe the problem was connected
to one of john1's post abou the Pahrump girls and the fallout from that post, rather than just the john1=shadyladyranch? threads.
I still do not know whether Bobbi and john1 are the same poster, and it makes little difference to me whether they are or
not. What does bother me is when posters start attacking each other and that the posts are hurting Bobbi's business.I realize
that you are just replying to posts and that you have not stated that john1 is the ShadyLadyRanch. However, I would appreciate
if you tried to avoid adding fuel to the fire.
Regards,
Nolan
I replied back to Nolan with this message
----- Original Message -----
From: "easy 728" <easy728@hotmail.com>
To: <webmaster@nvbrothels.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Bobbi and John1
I think the thing that should be done is for you to explain to the board exactly what the deal is. then let the posters
decide what they want to believe. Explain it exactly like you told me through the 2 emails. Then lock that thread.
I made one name calling post to TB. I probably shouldn't have. Sherry just started posting. I asked her not to, she is
going to stop.She knew about the situation and because we are friends felt I was getting a raw deal. Chay posted about poison
being fired from the shadyLady. According to Poison bobbi has also been giving her a bad time about this,through Inboxes.
That’s just not right. You are the only one that can clear this up.
Pat
His response to me was this
I do not think IP address information and the other information from Bobbi's phone calls and emails should be posted publicly
unless Bobb agrees to it. I do not think she has posted the information she gave in phones and emails, so I will assume she
wants it to stay private. I will review the board and may lock the threads.
Nolan
My Email back to Nolan was this
----- Original Message -----
From: "easy 728" <easy728@hotmail.com>
To: <webmaster@nvbrothels.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Bobbi and John1
bobbi is still posting she is saying she wants the proof posted. Have you also asked her to stop posting to me. I haven't
started any threads..I made 2 minor post all day on the subject. Some of her friends and
her have been doing all the postings.
You do it however you want.
Pat
I got one more email from Nolan
Pat,
I emailed you because Bobbi's usually only mentions you in her emails to me. I realize that there are plenty of other
people who are posting on the subject and contributing to the problems, including Bobbi. In my most recent email, I suggested
that she either make no more posts on the subject including posts to you and let the discussion end, or she post her explanation
about John1 being a guy from Vegas who uses the house computer. It seemed like things were getting out of control, so I locked
all the relevant threads.
Regards,
Nolan
Updates after the Controversy
I inboxed Kelly 10-16-03
I made a webpage discussing the recent Bobbi and john1 debate. I haven't published it to the web yet, but it can be accessed
with the URL. I may or not post it..Still trying to decide. If I do lots of people are going to be upset with me. You, bobbi,
and the webmaster. I just wanted you to get a heads up so it doesn't take you by complete surprise.
Kelly responds
Pat, PLEASE do not post all my messages. I have had to resort to going to her for work this weekend due to problems at this
house. I need work.
She has told me she is not going to post to the board for some time and maybe forever. Please let this drop. In many ways
you won. She has backed off the board for whatever reason. I ask you do not make me pay for all this, since I am REALLY the
only one who can be hurt financially and professionally.
Let me know,
Kelly
I Answer Kelly
like I told you i am undecided. The reason i wouldn't is because I know it may hurt you. Bobbi maybe aware of the linc all
ready. I'm not sure. a few people know about it. mostly bobbi fans.
I am not concerned about winning or losing. My goal is to just put out the facts as I know them. I let others decide whatever
they want. I think bobbi will be posting. or her proxys will post for her. Like I said I do not know what i'm going to do.
I can't promise you either way.
Kelly's last inbox
Well, if you have already shared this link with her "fans" I am dead meat. I posted a message in her Is This Magic
Posting trying to defend your stance as bestI could. I am sorry if you feel all this has hurt you somehow, but I think the
whole incident was just the same sides attacking eachother and majority of people did not care either way. The end result
was Bobbi backing off the board for her own reasons. At the time I gave her your name, you were already confronting her on
the board. I do not think it surprised her, but the information I gave her was not any additional proof she should have felt
made you the villain.
I hope this all just goes away, it is getting out of hand and now people are going to get REALLy hurt, me being the primary
individual..lol.
My last Inbox to kelly
Bobbi if she has any sense should hire you anyway..Your presence on the board would be of great benefit to her house. If
she can't look beyond you doing the best you could under some bad conditions, i don't know why you would want to work for
her.
I'm a straight up guy i give the facts as I know them. Sometimes the shit falls on me sometimes on someone else..This
email and inbox stuff with people saying one thing in public(the board) and at the same time sending everyone else private
messages saying something diffferent goes on all the time. I try to play it the sameway in both..If I fuck up and get caught
saying something stupid I live with the fallout.
Good Luck however it comes out for you. You do have a great carisma about you. Just try and keep out of some of the shit
that goes on on the boards. The back channels like the inbox, email and MIRC can get folks in trouble when they are playing
both sides.
Bobbi must really be pissed. Since then she has made this post.
Posted by Bobbi on October 17, 2003 at 00:06:45
In Reply to: Re: Jump in, you say? posted by pat on October 16, 2003 at 18:52:49
Take a little friendly advice pat and back away Before you step in to something you might not be able to get out of. if
you continue with this you may find yourself looking the other end of a subpoena. Two words you might like to look up Slander
and malice.
You might think that you are playing some kind of game this has gone beyond being a game.
Posted by bobbi on October 26, 2003 at 20:21:48
In Reply to: Re: Pat posted by Pat on October 26, 2003 at 19:20:18
no mention of a law suite. as for suboena look it up you have made caliam s about about me on this board and othre board
that you have proof that I have done some awful things you might just have to show that proof or possiably face slander changes.
Have a good night pat
I never did post the original Webpage of this on any message boards. I did share the URL with about 8 posters on MIRC. Those
were mostly Bobbi supporters and Bashful. Bashful posted the linc on his weekly summary.
Since then that site was wiped out. I am now adding this page to my new Website(this site).
Kelly also has gone to work at the ShadyLady. That is a good move..Kelly with her board presence will be a big plus for
the ShadyLady.
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