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I've posted this before in my reviews, but I'd like to put it here add a few more comments in hopes that LPIN customers see
it, take good note of it, and hopefully result in funner, more pleasant parties. Feel free to add any other advice. I've
made some stupid mistakes before and have heard some stories, leading me to post these suggestions. I wouldn't want anyone
else to make some of the same mistakes. Just my 2 cents... To Customers
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* Remember Your Milage
May Vary (YMMV) / Your Milage Will Vary (YMWV). A girl's performance may/will vary based on your/her mood, attitude towards
each other, etc. A party might be more enjoyable to one customer than another. What a girl might do with you might vary
customer-to-customer. I personally choose to listen more to what the regular posters say about ladies and put more weight
on their recommendations and their reviews. I may also look some at the ladies that in general have a lot of reviews. DON'T
assume that a lady with a lot of reviews will give a great party. There could be (and probably are) other great ladies not
mentioned as well. In the end, you should decide in person by talking with the lady.
* Decide on a spending limit.
You can negotiate with the ladies. I unfortunately didn't realize this when I first started. You can find good/great parties
around a $400-600/hr rate (and possibly lower). This rate includes women of all ranges of attractivenes. Keep an eye on
the pricing survey. It states that the average rate is $400/hr. DON'T assume that significantly higher prices will mean
you'll get significantly better sex. Try to think with your big head instead of your little one...
* Get a rental car.
Avoid limo (this includes the "complimentary" brothel limo) or taxi rides. Arriving in one of these forms of transportation
may give you higher rates during negotitations since a cut of the booking will go to the driver.
* Look at the time.
Before going back to the room, determine if the lady starts the clock during negotiations. Some courtesans will set the clock
as soon as you go to her room. The time spent paying for the party and the time spent for the courtesan filling out the paperwork
may cut into your time if she does this. This could easily cut out about 15 minutes from your party.
* Don't necessarily
go by what the lady says in email correspondence or on board postings. You can use this somewhat as a factor in whom
you choose, but I'd highly recommend talking to the lady in person once you arrive to see if you really click with her. Some
girls don't answer all their emails/postings and will have another reply for them.
* Don't pick from a lineup.
Unless you only care about looks, I'd avoid picking a girl from a lineup or reserving a girl. Lineups can be good to determine
who's available, but I'd recommend taking time to talk with the courtesan. I've found the parties with women with good/great
personalities to be much more enjoyable. You may be charged higher rates too if the girl knows that you are really interested
in her. I also like to see how the ladies interact with each other and the customers. Women who stay in the parlor are likely
to be better choices in my opinion. Especially the women that take time to talk to the customers.
* Don't limit yourself
to one brothel or one courtesan. Take the time to do some brothel hopping and chat with a variety of ladies.
*
Be clean and polite.
* Treat the lady with respect.
* Don't expect to find a girlfriend or go looking
for one at a brothel. Sure it might happen, but I think it's highly unlikely. Hopefully, friendships might form instead.
*
If you are a psycho or likely to be a stalker, please stay away and leave the lady alone.
* Relax and have fun!
* Monitor the pricing survey. It is located here. * Take a look at the FAQ. It is located here. * Don't mention that it's your first time to a brothel. This a sure sign for some courtesans to try and take advantage
of the situation. I think the one exception for this tip is if you are a virgin visiting a brothel. I think it may be easier
for you and the courtesan so that she can work with you better. * GFE = Girlfriend Experience
I'll use Speed Racer's
definition with a few modifications.
A session that includes activities that may make one forget that your party is a paid,
professional encounter. It could include elements of the following: kissing (maybe DFK or Deep French Kissing), prolonged
foreplay, cuddling, massage, and extensive conversation. A GFE session usually is an unrushed, relaxed atmosphere (within
brothel limits, of course). In my opinion, someone that provides a GFE probably at least does some cuddling, has more extensive
conversation, has an unrushed environment, and makes you forget your party is a paid encounter. A woman that provides a GFE
may not provide the same or any of the same elements to another customer. It can often depend upon the chemistry between
the client and the courtesan. You may experience inconsistances in subsequent GFEs with the same provider. YMWV. * PSE
= Porn Star Experience
I'll again use Speed Racer's definition with a few modifications. A session, could be with
a courtesan who has appeared in one or more commercial adult films, that includes more "intense" intimate activities than
a regular session. You can find a PSE with non-porn stars. Could include one or more of the following: intense fellatio, anal
play and/or intercourse, noisy lovemaking, talking "dirty", more "challenging" (i.e., athletic) positions, use of toys, mild
to severe B&D and/or S&M, multiple ladies in your session, or just about anything else that you might have seen in an adult
video. A woman that provides a PSE may not provide the same or any of the same elements to another customer. It can often
depend upon the chemistry between the client and the courtesan. YMWV.
Old Information from Me(Pat)
Here are a few suggestions that I think may help the guy planning a trip to the Brothels. The 1st part is my advice the 2nd
half is from a poster named MountainMan. Thier are no magical formulars in how to have a good experience. The best advice
is to learn has much as you can from a variety of people. Then pick and choose what you think may benefit you. I 1st posted
this on the old GP message board. I have modified it some since then. Bashful used it in his special reports section. I am
leaving his comments. Ignore the prices they are not compatible to today.
Two brothel formulas.
(December, 1999; GPI#0823)
Last Modified : December 25, 1999
Note from Bashful : The following is valuable advice for what to expect when visiting a legal
Nevada brothel. The first piece, by Pat, covers the Reno/Carson City brothels. The second piece, by
Mountain Man, covers the Las Vegas brothels.
From : Pat
To : GP's message board
Date : December 24, 1999 at 15:57:58
Subject : Pat's Brothel Formula (message #142787)
The Beginning
I believe the experience starts before you even leave home. Take some time to ask yourself some
questions. What do I really want or expect from my adventure? Am I just looking for a sexy hot babe
to suck my cock and let me fuck her? Or do I want this to be something special that I will remember
for years to come? Different people will have different needs, some just want some strange stuff to
break up the monotony of sex with the wife or steady girlfriend. Others just want to get a nut. They
haven't been able to do this in their real life so this is a good way to get the job done. There are those
that are more interested in just having someone love and cuddle up close to them, the sex is just a
bonus that comes with the adventure. It is only temporary but as long as you remeber that and keep
your emotions in control this can be quite rewarding. Some will go down just looking for a quick fuck
and leave falling in love, avoid this situation at all costs. Then there are the kinky sex guys. They
have plenty of steady pussy in their lives but have a desire for what others might call kinky. They are
too bashful to express these desires to their mates so the brothels are a good place to live out these
fantacies.
Ok! You have an idea of what you are looking for, now do some homework. A good place to start
would be this board. Read the message board and try to pick up some info from the on-topic posts.
Don't waste your time on the other noise that goes on this board. If you see a post titled "Sticky
Poop" it probably won't be much help to you in your quest for a good brothel experience. Read these
only for a break away from your more serious task of learning. On the newbie FAQ page and the top
of the board there are many links that may be helpful to you. Check these out. The Old FAQ and
Bashful's reports I would highly recommend. I would say the most useful would be the recent
reports and especially the special reports. The reports on the ladies will give you some good ideas on
the variety of ladies and types of parties you may be able to receive in the brothels. Don't be afraid to
ask questions from board members directly on the board or through private e-mail messages. When
you ask try and frame your question so the readers know exaxtly what you are looking for and be
polite. Questions like how much does it cost to fuck XXX won't get you much useful information.
You have Arrived
Get yourself some lodging if you are staying over night. I recommend no less than a two day stay to
maximize your brothel experience. Relax, have a good meal, and take a shower. Don't worry about
buying fancy clothes to impress the ladies. Wear something comfortable and clean. Casual will be
just as effective, maybe even more so than fancy duds. Be yourself. You may want to pick up a map
or have some printed instructions on the locations of the brothels. If you did your home work you
should have this information already. Rent a car. Do not take a taxi or rely on them for guidance,
they get a cut on the activities of any party you have. This comes out of the lady's money and may
cause her to have to charge you more for your party. Ok, you have done your home work, you are
clean and comfortable. Now lets go brothel hopping.
Brothel hopping
There are no secret or special ways to do this. Most of the houses in the Reno/CC area offer a
line-up, the Moonlight Bunny Ranch is the only exception. They actualy give you one but it doesn't
seem like one because of the informal way they do it. During the line-up, smile and look friendly,
listen to the ladies introduce themselves, and make a note of the ones that stand out for you. You
can at this time pick a lady and invite her over for a drink at the bar or ask to go to her room. You can
also choose to go to the bar and have a drink to relax before you make any decisions. No matter what
course of action you choose, try and have your best smile on and be courteous.
If you choose to go to the bar first without a lady, you may find some ladies cozying up to you for
friendly conversation. This is sometimes known as the parlor hustle. Don't be intimidated, it's kind
of like when you're shopping for a new car. The salesmen will come over and introduce themselves
and try and see if they can be of some help. Just like different sales people have different techniques,
the ladies can vary from quiet and innocent to loud and aggressive. Use your life experiences to get
through this stage of the game. If at any time one of the ladies sounds and looks like someone you
find interesting, ask her to take you on a tour. This will end up in her room 99% of the time. You are
NOT obligated to commit to a party if you do this, it is a good way to find out what goes on in the
negotiations. I will talk about negotiations later. If you don't find a lady that meets your needs hang
out for awhile, I would say not more than one hour. Make some mental notes and move on to the
rest of the brothels. If you're sitting at the bar and no one approaches you, don't be shy, invite
anyone over that appeals to you. Sometimes the ladies are just not in a hustling mood. Don't take
this personally, if you see one that looks interesting walk over to her, she will most likely be more
than happy to chat with you.
I like to check out all the brothels before I make a decision. You can go to her room and talk prices
and activities without having to commit to a party. Make sure you let the lady know you are still in
the shopping mode, she will either go back to the room or tell you to let her know when you are
ready to party. Most will be willing to go to the room and negotiate, even if you aren't partying right
that moment. They will not get mad or feel offended if you move on and then come back later. You
may run into some that will give you a hard time about this, don't let it bother you. Stick to your plan.
Its all part of the game.
DO NOT lead the ladies on, be honest about your plans. If a lady just doesn't appeal to you then in a
polite way tell her NO thank you. She may ask you if you are interested in any of the other ladies. If
you are she will probably send that lady your way. If you find one that seems right you can either
party with her right now, or you can tell her you are interested but want to check all the brothels
before you make a decision. That is my preferred method.
Negotiations
Its time to pay up or get the heck out of Dodge City. You found your choice for the evening, now its
time to try and seal the deal. You may have already done this in your brothel hopping stage, then its
just a matter of going back to the lady, taking her by the hand, and going to her room for your
adventure
Once in the room with your lady of choice, she will probably say "What did you want to do tonight?"
or "How much money do you have to spend?" Now, this is where you must know in your mind what
this experience is worth to you, and what you want to do. I find it best to just come right out and say
what I want and expect from the party. She may meet all your requirments or have some limitations
on what she will or will not do. Some will charge you by activity while others will quote a price for
time. Make sure you both understand what actvities you expect. If you're negotiating for time, have
her commit to a specific amount of time. Do not agree to ABOUT one hour, in brothel language that
can mean anything from thirty minutes to one hour. Even if you are negotiating for time, have a
good understanding of the activities that will take place during this time. If there are certain activities
that are important to you such as playing or sucking on her tits, you performing oral sex on her or
anything else that is important to you, make sure you have an agreement on these. If kissing is
important to you, it may be more difficult to find a lady that will do this. There are two trains of
thoughts on this. One is to just ask her outright, the other is to just hope she will let you and it will
happen in the heat of passion. DO NOT pressure a lady to allow kissing, she either does or doesn't. If
it's important to you, mention it and move on. If she says NO, accept her NO answer and if
everything else is mutualy agreeable by the two of you, go for the party. This is a negotiation and you
will not always find everything you want for the price you want. You are better off with a lady that
meets your price and you feel comfortable with than a lady that may say she will give you everything,
but the vibes between you are not there. Throwing more money into the pot for kissing or any other
activity is NO guarantee that you will have a better party. You will be better off with a lady that is
doing the things you want because she wants to and is comfortable with the actvities, than a lady that
is doing them because you bribed her into doing them.
Money
No one can tell you what a good party will cost. The range can be anywhere from $150 to $1000.
Your financial situation, your mood, her mood, the time of day, day of week and many other things
will affect this. My personel belief is that any figure between $300 to $500 can give you a very good
party. Know how much you expect to spend. This probably shouldn't be an exact figure, I would say a
range with $100 flexibility. My average is less than what Bashful came up with on his survey. His is
based on statistics, mine is based on personel experience and conversations with others. I would say
$300 to $500 will get you a good one hour party with most normal activities (Note from Bashful :
Actually, Pat's numbers are exactly those from my pricing survey. The average was $300 per hour,
and the median was $260 an hour, which means that for half of the sessions polled the fellow paid
less than $260 an hour). The lady may not be the superstar model but she will be cute to beautiful
and know how to please and pamper you.
Some guys like to go in, say this is what I want and this is what I'm willing to pay. Sometimes this
works if your dollar amount is high enough and you have the right lady. Others will go in and ask
how much it costs for the activities he is seeking. The lady will quote him a price, it may be close to
what he expects or triple what he wants to pay. The next move is to make a counter offer, stay in your
self-imposed price range. She may come down from her original offer but still too high for you. You
can either thank her for her time, or make one more offer. I don't recommend going beyond this
though, if you haven't agreed by now either one of you or both of you will feel cheated or ripped off
with any more negotiations. Now it's time to walk, and move on to another lady.
The important thing to remember during negotiations is that these should be conducted in a fair and
friendly manner. Comments like "Hey! The house is slow tonight, what have you got to lose?" will
not get you anything beneficial. Be polite at all times. Arguing is not an acceptable behavior, either
you two will agree or disagree on time activities or money in a friendly way or you are asking for a bad
brothel experience. Most of my negotiations take less than one minute or two. A rejection by her or
you is not an insult to either one of you, just that the two of you weren't the right players at this time.
Some other things you might want to consider are offering the lady a price but tell her you will throw
in a tip if the party goes well. Don't do this unless you really mean it. Another thing is you might tell
her that you want to book for one hour and if the two of you are happy with how it's going you will
extend the party a second hour. The second hour can be negotiated at this time also for the same
price or maybe a higher or even lesser price, if the first hour is a reasonable price some ladies will do
this. Again, do not make these offers unless you are serious about what you are saying. They are not
meant as tricks but to help the two of you to get to a place where you are both happy with the deal.
Final comments
These are only suggestions that I have used in the past and they have worked for me, your
experiences may be very different. There are no hard and set rules that guarantee a good party, the
two most important factors are YOU and the lady. Every trip to Nevada is different and what works
great one day may not the next, read and listen to others and use common sense. This won't
guarantee an excellent party but will greatly increase your odds.
Good luck and have fun.
Pat
Mountain Mans advice
From : Mountain Man
To : GP's message board
Date : December 25, 1999 at 00:34:59
Subject : Re: Pat's Brothel Formula (message #142819)
Dear Patrick :
Before reading your post, I just completed a poll presented to me by the Harris Organization. In the
poll questions there were too many places that an option of "does not apply", or "I decline to reply",
or "none of the above" was not given me. Your "formula" post was, IMHO, written for someone who
generally (but not always) lives on the "left coast of the US of A" and can/does travel to Nevada more
often, and travels particularly to northern Nevada (Reno/CC).
Others of us (2,000+ mile one-way travelers, or more) use a different formula.
Primary purpose of the trip
Business, convention, seminar or something similar ... and on some rare trips, just a little vacation.
Destination
Usually Las Vegas because more business happenings take place there. For example, Atlanta, GA is
losing the second largest trade-show in the US of A to Las Vegas a couple of years from now. Now
with the LV destination as a given, for us "unwashed, non-left-coast CWMers", we are limited to a
limited number of LNBs who operate under different house rules. And only a couple of the houses
are really acceptable (these others generally can be considered rip-offs, but not always so, as some
say they have had good experiences).
Sizing up the lady to take a tour with
We make our best choice while viewing a line-up (most of the time, but not always) and in the case
where a deal is not worked out with the lady we can always tip her for her ten minutes of tour time
and ask her if there is another lady in the house that will party for the price we want to pay, or will
give us the type of party we desire.
What type of experience
Many of us just want a little variety in our life, and we do not pretend to have a romance or girl friend
experience during the visit. And since the trips to Nevada may only be once or twice a year, the odds
of seeing the same lady twice in a lifetime are rare. Not all parties rate as a ten, but oftentimes a party
that rates a six, with some cuddling and sharing after the climax, often results in a mutual friendly
(seems that way, but in some cases it could be an acting job) experience.
Number of visits to a LNB during a weeks trip to Las Vegas
Usually only one, or maybe two parties, because of the distance one has to travel, and because of the
lack of available time to get away from the business purposes of the trip (remember, most are
business trips).
Why are many CWMers (who partake at LV area LNBs) only lurkers?
Because, in twenty years, I have never partied with the same lady twice. So, if I/we wrote a report, the
odds are such that the lady would not be there due to the turnover at those LNBs. However, some
highly rated ladies like the often mentioned Alexis, who I have never seen, are the exception to the
rule regarding turnover rate at the LV area LNBs.
And that is the way it is, today (from my perspective), and has been for twenty years. One formula
will never fit all.
Advice for the ladies
..My advice for the ladies would be to try and be as cheerful as possible, whenever talking to the guys..I don't
like the aggressive hustle...If I walk in and you grab me by the arm and say something like give me all your money so I can
fuck you silly, That would be a turn off for me..If you come on friendly with a nice smile giving me the impression that your
in a good mood, that will get my attention. I never go directly on a tour before I party..While at the bar or sitting in the
lounge talking, make me feel like you are interested in showing me a good time..Don't come on making me think all i am is
a wallet to you..Even if that is true.In the room Negotiating..When we begin negotiating asking me to sit on the bed next to you while you mildly flirt
with me by carassing my leg or touching me in a gentle unthreatning way will work in your favor..The 2 of us just standing
facing each other in a very business like pose, makes me less likely to come to an agreement. ..your 1st question should
not be "How much money do you have" Saying something like "How can I please you" will perk my interest..When we discuss the
activities of the party, be up front with me if their are things that you will not do..I will ussually tell you up front what
i expect..If for whatever reason some of those things aren't part of what you are willing to do..Tell me now not during the
party...Just because you wont do all i am asking for doesn't mean I will not party..How you respond in attitude will have
more effect on me than the do's and don'ts. ..I will tell you I have this much to spend..If you come back with a figure
3 times that high, You will probaly lose my interest and at this time I will thank you for your time and we will go back to
the lounge...If your response is close to my offer then their is a good chance that we can work something out..I will ask
for 1 hour of time in most of my parties..If you come back with I can give you "ABOUT" 1 hour, my defenses kick in...Give
me exact numbers..If what I am offering will only get me 45 minutes just tell me..At that time I can decide if that will work
for me. .. The party is on..Once
we get our clothes off, I like to just lay on the bed and just cuddle and carass each other for a few minutes..If as soon
as we get naked you push me down, grab my cock and start sucking, I will be thinking "here comes the rush job" Take your time
before getting to the good stuff..The teasing and working your way down is as important as the blow job it's self.. ..The
party should have a natural flow to it..With both of us guiding the activities..5 minutes of sucking and then you saying "OK!
" Then you mount me and fuck me like your trying to get it over with..Will leave me feeling rushed. The party is over..If their is time left and you get up get
dressed and throw me a wash cloth to get cleaned up..This will give me another feeling of a rush job..I am more likely to
come see ya again if you take the time to clean me up and we lay and talk or cuddle until the time we agreed on is up... ..When
we walk back to the parlor giving me a hug and offering for me to stay and relax for awhile will have a better effect on me
than pointing me to the door.. Final comments..This is just what I like when going to the Brothels..Others will have different likes or dislikes..I think
it's up to the lady and guy to communicate what will work best for them..The ladies i think are special at what they do are
the ones that know how to read the guys coming in..Although their primary concern is to make money and this is a business
deal..Their are ways to keep it a business deal while at the same time making the guy feel like he was more than a quick
deposit to her bank account..The ladies that know how to do this well..Will be the ones that get the return customers.. Pat
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