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Forrest Fang October 2009 As I was
pondering this month’s interview subject for Electroambient Space, I was spending a fair amount of time listening to
Phantoms, the latest album by ambient artist Forrest Fang. I realized I know very little about him, other than that I like
his music quite a bit. I also discovered few online biographies about or interviews with him (you can check out a bio here on Amazon, and another interview here, which appears to be from a decade or so ago). So…long
story short, that made him an easy choice for this month’s interview. Thank you Forrest for your quick and thoughtful
responses to my questions; it was a pleasure getting to know you. You have such a wide range of musical
background and experiences – from jazz to rock, Chinese to American, primitive and modern instruments. And yet your
albums seem to be quite focused. How do you incorporate all these influences into a single musical vision? I don’t make a conscious effort to incorporate
my musical influences, though I’d like to think they make their way into my music in an organic way that depends more
on the context of a given piece than on an attempt to be eclectic. Very early on, I was heavily influenced by the minimalism
of Steve Reich, Philip Glass and Terry Riley, but since the late 80s, I’ve been fascinated with various forms of non-Western
music such Chinese classical music, Japanese gagaku (ancient Imperial Court music) and Indonesian gamelan. How long does it take you to do an
album, from conception to completion? My albums tend to take several years to complete. The beginning of each project tends to be a very gradual process that begins with
an extended period of experimenting, with a very open-ended, improvisational approach to recording. After compiling and listening to many hours of recording, a tentative form for a project hopefully begins
to take shape. Once I can see an overall shape, the recordings tend to gradually
become more structured. You write your music in both Western
and Chinese notation. How carefully do you plan your music in advance, and how much does improvisation play a part? I have actually used notation of any kind very sparingly
in recent years, and have been relying more heavily on my ears to detect and preserve musical structures. This freeform
approach tends to be a bit messier, but I think that the results can be more complex and satisfying than if I used formal
notation. The last album in which I used Chinese notation extensively was my 1994 release on Cuneiform, “Folklore.” Describe how your latest album Phantoms
came about. What theme, message or feeling are you trying to convey to the listener? Phantoms was probably one of the more difficult
albums for me to finish. I began it about 8 years ago, but took a break from it for about a year or two because I wasn’t
hearing enough space in the music for acoustic instruments. During that break, I finished my 2006 collaboration with
guitarist Carl Weingarten, Invisibility, on Foundry. It’s hard to describe what feelings or moods I intended
to convey with Phantoms, but I hope that it comes across as a layered work that reveals itself gradually over multiple
listens. Phantoms was mastered by
Robert Rich, with whom you have collaborated in the past. What do you like best about working with him? Robert is a longtime friend I have known since the
early 90s. He has a fertile mind, and it is fun to talk shop with him and get feedback on some of my untested ideas.
He is also an extremely talented musician with a great set of ears to boot. Some may not realize that you also
released a recording for Hypnos under a pseudonym, Sans Serif, entitled Tones for Lamonte. Why did you choose to
release this under another name? My Sans Serif side project from 2008 was a pretty
significant departure from releases under my own name up to that point. It was a small scale experiment to create complex
drones in real time that morphed into an entire album that I recorded during a single month—May 2008. I hope to
do follow-up to it at some point. Who is Lamonte? LaMonte refers to LaMonte Young, one of the godfathers
of minimalism. His music is drone-based. I thought your collaboration with
Carl Weingarten, Invisibility, was fantastic, my pick for best ambient album of that year. How did you two come together,
and what do you think worked so well about that album? Thanks, I’m glad you liked it. I met
Carl in the mid-90s at house party in San Francisco being thrown for a visiting musician, Gianluigi Gasparetti, who records
under the name Oöphoi.
Both Carl and I had gone to the same university in the Midwest and had even heard of each other, but had never met until the
night of that party. I think our collaboration worked well because we had complementary sounds and textures, an open,
improvisatory approach to composition, and no preconceptions about how the collaboration would turn out. If you could name only three artists
as your main influences, who would they be? Hard to answer that one. Over time, I’d
have to go with Steve Reich, Brian Eno, and my late teacher on gu zheng (Chinese zither), Zhang Yan. Have you started working on your next
project yet? What will it be like? I’ve started recording rough demos again,
but it’s hard to tell at this point whether they will make it to my next project. I also will have to record quite
a bit more before hearing a shape and form for my next project. Do you wish your music had a wider
audience, or do you enjoy working somewhat anonymously and below the radar? I am content to continue working as I have for many
years, at my own pace and without the pressure or immediate expectation of another album. I also consider myself fortunate
to have worked with some great and supportive labels (Projekt, Hypnos, Cuneiform, Foundry) that have provided new outlets
for my music, while at the same time giving me full autonomy with my music. What is the best thing about making
music? The point of creation is most satisfying thing
about making music. Everything after that is gravy. ♫ Thanks again Forrest for being such an engaging subject! Chuck van Zyl August 2009
Chuck van Zyl’s long running radio program
of spacey soundscapes STAR'S END has been on the air at public radio station WXPN in Philadelphia since 1976. Every weekend
from 1:00am Saturday night until 6:00am Sunday morning finds van Zyl at the FM broadcast studio spinning a wealth of ambient,
ethereal and space music. The mix is dreamy and seamless, his on-air announcements gently delivered so as not to wake the
sleepers in the audience. Van Zyl also authors the many album reviews and artist profiles for the STAR'S END website. Van Zyl originated The Gatherings Concert Series
in 1992 as a listener get-together. In 2003 van Zyl founded The Corporation for Innovative Music and Arts of PA (CIMA), and
the series has continued as an independent, volunteer-run non-profit ever since. Focusing on the same genres as the STAR’S
END broadcasts, The Gatherings has presented concerts with dozens of recognized and emerging musicians from all over the world. Van Zyl is also an accomplished musician in
his own right, making solo and collaborative space music recordings since the mid-1980s. He has played live at an interesting
range of venues and released numerous CDs, most notably with guitarist Art Cohen in their duo The Ministry of Inside Things.
In 2009 van Zyl has been getting back to basics with several solo concerts and work on a solo studio CD. A friend once called Chuck van Zyl the "Complete
Ambient Entity". Now at age 51 van Zyl reflects on the past, his life in the present and trust in the future. You performed an interesting concert in
January of 2009, during a yoga class at The Philadelphia Museum of Art. What was that like? Over my many years of performing (and presenting)
live space music I've noticed that every concert presents its own special set of circumstances, challenges and rewards. But
my solo concert at the PMA this past winter was significantly different than anything else I've ever done – even though
I'd played a concert there previously (with MoIT back on 16 September 1998). As this evening's program at the museum was somewhat
of a free-form activity, staged in the PMA's Great Stair Hall, what I came up with was quite unconventional for both myself
and for the museum – but turned out to be totally appropriate for the night's proceedings. After a brief introduction to the museum crowd (wondering
what exactly was going on here) the yoga class leader began stretching and posing. Her group of students followed, and I began
producing some very long, slow moving tones with my synthesizers. The Great Stair Hall is extremely reverberant and as the
gently sweeping and shifting pads emanated from a series of speakers distributed around the massive hall, a contemplative
atmosphere seemed to fill the space. As the lesson concluded and the yoga class wandered off, I continued to play music -
bringing in more focused sequencer pieces. With MoIT I'd become accustomed to timing out
sets across a pre-conceived musical arc, but during this concert I was truly reacting to the environment, my own mood and
that of the audience. Afterwards, I heard from attendees that the music
really sounded good in the museum - swirling around the rafters and tripping through the
hallways and galleries. I'll take their word for it - making this music was such an intense and absorbing process for me that
I found it difficult to know what it sounded like or how it was being received in every
corner of the museum. But this was truly a wonderful experience for me and I hope I am asked back to do it again. Yet for
all this concert's unique characteristics and exposure, ultimately I do feel more comfortable playing music in a darkened
space made intimate by an audience in attendance there expressly for the concert. What is the most memorable or unique setting
you've performed in? Certainly the solo concert at the PMA that I just
described was quite memorable. There was a concert MoIT played at a coffee shop one time in Wilmington, Delaware - memorable
because by the time our set ended there was absolutely no one left in the place! Even the guy who booked us had stepped out,
which was depressing. But mostly I have quite positive memories of the concerts I've played. Creating space music under the
dome of a planetarium is quite a profound experience. What with the pinpoints of stars and enormous images of planets drifting
above our heads in conjunction with the live music, I've felt overwhelmed in the beauty of a stolen moment. Also, MoIT has
had the opportunity to play a few house concerts - occasionally out of doors. In this instance we'd set up our gear on a deck
overlooking a lake, and with the sun setting beautifully behind us happily played our set through the twilight and on into
the night. I also have very fond memories of playing live in Philadelphia at The Gatherings Concert Series. The church setting
is lovely but strong feelings linger at the support and enthusiasm shown by the audience. Any concert with this kind of connection
is memorable - and affirming! I did not realize before preparing for this
interview what a truly gifted photographer you are. I found them quite striking. What is it about cemeteries and similar settings
that inspire you? Thanks for having a look at my photography. I was
first drawn to cemeteries because they offered a landscape suitable for the infrared film I was using. The statuary, trees,
shrubs and open sky fully exploited all the esoteric properties of this film. But it soon became apparent to me that these
places possessed a fascinating power. Yet in spite of this strange beauty, they have gone completely ignored by the following
generations. The original purpose of the Victorian rural cemetery was to provide a tranquil and pastoral setting where we
the living could contemplate grief, loss and our own mortality - concepts seemingly of a bygone age. Over the past few years
I've learned something about the history of these 19th century rural cemeteries as well as the fascinating symbolism that
adorns many of the monuments. Traveling to quite a few cities around the USA I have photographed the many hidden, yet wondrous
old cemeteries that still exist - seemingly just beyond the perception of modern society. What inspires me is the sense of timelessness I
encounter when exploring the grounds of these unique places. To me it really feels like entering another realm - one just
outside everyday life. I hope to bring this feeling back with me in the form of photographs - which have been described as
atmospheric, providing a mood within which the viewer provides a narrative... much like the Space music for which I am so
closely associated. Is Van Zyl your real name? It sounds like
it was made for space music. Yes, it is the true surname of my family. I'm told
that it is quite common in Holland and South Africa, and until I read this question considered it something of a liability
(so thanks very much for expressing your impression that it is perfectly suited to my avocation). All through school, or anywhere
one's name must be read aloud, the reader always seemed to mispronounce it. I believe the proper pronunciation is "vanzi-le", Europeans always get it right. According to a book on surnames, van Zyl means, "one who lives
by stagnant water". I imagine this refers to the line of people who tended the vast system of locks and canals in Holland.
Along with being one fourth Dutch, my family line traces back to Ireland, Germany and Italy - I'm definitely part of the "melting
pot" here in The States! Are you able make your living just from
your radio and other music-related activities? How do you do it? I learned early on that for me there was no money
in this kind of music. I know of a few artists in our community who earn their living at music, and I know that I am not of
the personality type that would allow me to function in their league. So I've always had a "day job" – and for the last
25 years or so it's been with the US Postal Service as a Letter Carrier. The area I work in includes my own house, so I derive
a great sense of satisfaction in serving the community I live in. Along with having a job where my personal values are present,
delivering mail also lines up with being a DJ on STAR'S END where I deliver music to listeners, and presenting The Gatherings
Concert Series where I am delivering concerts to an audience. So I don't think I consider myself a Mailman who promotes concerts
on the side, or a DJ who also brings the daily post, but rather someone who delivers things. I guess I am always looking for
unity in my life... Describe a typical day for you from when
you get up to when you go to bed. What hours do you keep? How many hours a week do you spend on your radio show? On writing/making
music? On other things? On some occasions I will be awake for 24 hours straight.
For instance the weekend of 16 - 17 May 2009, which included the Ben Neill/Soporus performance at The Gatherings Concert Series
as well as the Spring fundraiser on STAR'S END. On this day I was awake at 6:30am to be at work by 7:30am. Delivered mail
to 600 or 700 houses (skipping lunch) until 3:30pm. Went straight home to meet Jeff and Art to load up the cars with PA, lights
and various concert gear. Helped get Soporus and Ben Neill set up, then helped sort out
"amplitude" issues with Soporus during the soundcheck. We opened the doors at 7:30pm and by 8:15pm or so the house lights
were dimmed and I was welcoming the audience from the stage, and introducing the opening act - which was Soporus, an all-guitar
ensemble, then after an intermission Ben Neill and his Mutantrumpet. The concert was great and afterwards I helped get everything
packed up and loaded back into the cars and put away back at my house. I got to WXPN by about 12:30am to sort out the phone
room volunteers for STAR'S END, and at 1:00am was on the air spinning music and asking listeners to call in with a pledge.
By 6:00am we'd raised $5000.00 and by 7:00am or thereabouts I was at last back home in bed fast asleep (the weekend of 27
- 28 June 2009 was somewhat similar, but less intense, what with me working at the PO only
a half day, doing the Johann Johannsson/Lichens performance at The Gatherings and then a normal all-nighter on STAR'S END). I should point out that during this weekend I was
working with some extraordinary people who volunteer their time to make all this music happen, in particular are my good friends
Art Cohen and Jeff Towne – plus there were the phoneroom volunteers ay WXPN as well as friends who help out at The Gatherings.
There are some good people here in Philadelphia and it is through their passion and devotion that this scene exists. I usually spend every day but Sunday working - delivering
the daily post, so I may spend evenings working on various projects and interests. Thursday evening I spend a few hours writing
the weekly music review for the STAR'S END website, then spend Friday evening previewing music and planning out the upcoming
broadcast of STAR'S END. After work on Saturday I get a few hours sleep then go in to WXPN to present STAR'S END live beginning
at 1:00am. Sunday's are sometimes spent in a catatonic state, but more often working on my music - either practicing with
Art or more recently recording solo material with Jeff. As for my photography, I've used vacation time from
work for several epic Summer road trips through the USA. Although you play a variety of styles on
your Star's End radio show and on your albums, you seem comfortable with the Berlin School sound, which many seem to enjoy
bashing. Any comment on the negative take on this style of music, on those who say it is a dinosaur, or uninspired noodling,
or worse? I believe that the so-called "Berlin School Sound"
does not deserve any bashing, nor should it be ignored, as is often the case in the mainstream. The space music that came
out of Berlin during the early 1970s was perhaps the most innovative and expressive music ever realized, yet it has never
really been given its due by anyone outside the underground. Even in books about Electronic Music, the topic of Space music
is often completely overlooked or just given a quick mention as a sub-genre of New Age, the bastard child of the Avant-Garde
or third cousin to Minimalism. I find this extremely irritating because Space music and especially its origins deserves some
recognition in the evolution of contemporary music. When it was released in 1974 the album "Phaedra" was a quantum leap beyond
anything that had ever been heard before. Tangerine Dream understood that with their new instruments (the recently developed
synthesizer) they could make a new music. The political and cultural climate of post-war Germany supported this aspiration
and lead the country's youth to fix their vision on a future with little connection to their devastated past. The otherworldly
mood and mysterious atmosphere that emanates from "Phaedra" was a unique expression of technological and spiritual discovery
that occurred during an era of political change. Is this not the great aspiration of music? That is, to create a mood or an
atmosphere that happens over time? If so, then these early works of Space music succeed in great measure. So please Mr. Basher,
realize that musicians still playing Space music are not mindlessly trying to recreate the "Berlin School Sound" of sequencer
runs, organ drones and Mellotron pads, we're trying to recapture the mood and atmosphere of discovery, human expansiveness
and cosmic yearning - mainly through the use of timbre. [Note: Please read Chuck van Zyl's previous article
on "Berlin School Essentials" on the STAR'S END Website: http://www.starsend.org/berlinschool.html ] Ambient Elsewhere seems an intentional
departure from earlier MoiT albums. Why the change? Will the next album continue in that direction, or is it too early to
tell? The Ministry of Inside Things has three CD releases
through Synkronos Music: "Everlasting Moment" (2003), "Contact Point" (2006) and "Ambient Elsewhere" (2008), two of which
are double CD sets. That's five physical CDs in all, each about an hour in length. From the beginning we'd set out to make
five different musical suites suitable for each of the five one-hour segments of a typical broadcast of STAR'S END. I think
that in producing the radio show for so many years I have developed some musical sense of pacing, dynamics and arrangement
which has influenced my work in MoIT. When we set about conceiving the music for "Ambient Elsewhere" we were looking at composing
music in keeping with the darker 4:00am and the more earthly pre-dawn 5:00am hours of STAR'S END. An influence on disc two
of "AE" (the more affirming of the two discs) was an invitation by the nationally syndicated radio program ECHOES to be part
of their annual "Sonic Seasonings" Winter Solstice Living Room Concerts broadcast. For this we came up with three pieces appropriate
for the Winter theme - "Aphelion Season". "Naylor's Run" and "The New Past", which aired on radio stations around the country
on Christmas Eve 2004. We carried these pieces over, along with a few others, into a full new one hour live set which we played
at quite a number of venues. It may be that you found the mood and atmosphere of "Ambient Elsewhere" so distinctive because
it is our most thematically focused release. Not only were we trying to convey (on disc one) the odd darker themes of the
dead of night, and (on disc two) the brighter Winter themes of peace and renewal, at this stage we'd been conceiving and playing
music together for a several years - and as with any good collaboration the work progresses into new areas and levels spontaneously.
I think that to a great degree this is happening with this release and naturally will be present in our future work as well. How many incarnations of Van Zyl-Gulch-Rath/MoiT/Xisle
etc. have there been? I've got a complex musical family tree. As I recall
I bought my first synthesizer in 1984 and produced a cassette not long after. It was called "Runway" and featured a 15 minute
tone poem on the one side and a reading of "The Midnight Express" I did over the air on STAR'S END with an original synthesized
soundtrack on the other. Back then I went by the most cryptic "Xyl" and made a few cassettes under that name. I was always
hanging out with The Nightcrawlers and so got together with member Tom Gulch to form "Xisle". Our first of several concerts
was in March of 1986 at "The Creative Underground" in New Brunswick, NJ. By December of 1987 Tom had left Xisle and my friends
Peter Gulch and D. Andrew Rath joined. During this period Xisle created some really great live music. Over the years the three of us became quite tuned-in
to one another - sometimes to the point where the music was based more on an intuitive connection than on pre-planned motifs.
When our live improvisations worked it was very powerful for us - the experience enhanced by the presence of an audience.
We came up with a totally new set every time we played out - each of us contributing our own elements and concepts to realize
the new material. Among the highlights were concerts at Novins Planetarium, Pebble Hill Peace Site and two performances for
The Gatherings Concert Series, including the very first event in the series in 1992. Somewhere in the early 1990's D. A. Rath dropped
out which left Peter and I to continue as a duo. We did a few concerts together as "van Zyl and Gulch" (as we'd released the
collaborative studio CD "Regeneration Mode"); most notable among them was the EMMA Festival in Sheffield, England. In 1996
we changed our name to "The Ministry of Inside Things" and after a few concerts guitarist Art Cohen was added in 1997. With
this new member came an entirely unique element to our sound. Not only did Art introduce an expansive new sonic palette made
with guitar; he also brought sensibilities from his background in rock and folk music. After a few concerts as a trio Peter
retired from music and Art and I went on with MoIT (to this day) as a duo. This incarnation of MoIT has been quite prolific,
playing concerts at all kinds of venues: on the radio, coffee shops, concert series, planetariums, even in a friend's bedroom.
We did a few regional tours as well and released three live CDs made up of definitive versions of pieces from the five different
performance sets we'd realized at concerts between 1999 and 2007. I quite enjoy your album The Sound Museum
with Gulch and Rath. How many hours of other archival recordings, either solo or collaboration, do you think you have, and
what are the odds we may hear more of it on future releases? Thanks! "The Sound Museum" CD (released by Groove
Unlimited in 2001) contains most of the music from the double cassette of the same name (released by Synkronos Music in 1992).
It's true, quite a bit of recorded material has accumulated in the archives. With Xisle (Peter Gulch, D. A. Rath and myself)
several cassettes of live music were released. There also exists many hours of unreleased yet viable recordings from other
Xisle concerts and practice sessions. Plus I have a few very early solo studio and live cassette releases which deserve some
attention as well. All of this work has either been out of circulation
for many years or never presented to the public in any meaningful way. What with digital distribution methods such as MusicZeit.com
this early music should see the light of day at some point in the near future (same goes for our growing archive of MoIT concert
recordings). Finding the time to recover, evaluate, edit and master this material will be an issue in the completion of this
project. I also love your solo albums, Celestial
Mechanics and The Relic, particularly the latter. Why have you not released a solo album in so long? Any new
ones in the works? "Celestial Mechanics" and "The Relic" were solo
van Zyl CDs released by Centaur Discs LTD in the mid-1990s. They were comprised of music from previous solo cassettes out
on Synkronos Music. Now that I Iook back over the years since that time I see that my efforts in developing The Gatherings
Concert Series and our music community, the weekly presentation of the STAR'S END Ambient Radio program and my group work
with Xisle and then The Ministry of Inside Things has kept me from doing any significant solo work. Of course my pursuits
with Peter, Art and D. A. Rath have been very rewarding, and I have felt a great sense of growth and achievement in these
collaborations - but it was not until a friend encouraged me to do a concert incorporating projections of my infrared photography
that I began to consider making solo music again. After months of rumination I began to move more
towards this idea. Working in a group setting, as I did with Xisle and MoIT, led to music that I could not have realized on
my own. I know I have benefited from working with some very talented musicians. Together we've expanded each other's vision
and understanding of the music. But since the "First Night Out" concert at The Gatherings in May of 2008 - where I did play
a solo concert along with large cross-fading projections of my photos - I've felt a desire to create music that is entirely
an expression of my own inner workings - to have something resolve completely as I've envisioned it rather than as the result
of collaboration. For the past several months I have been working
toward this end with several solo live concerts and in the home recording studio. I hope to have a new solo CD out in 2010.
I'm not sure of the title yet, possibly "MemorySpace". This music came out of my performance
at "First Night Out" and the solo concerts I put together in early 2009. Upon listening to this new material I notice that
it seems to begin in the same place as a much earlier solo piece called "Callisto". At first I thought that after all these
years I'd really not progressed that far. But I realized that maybe it is best to go back to the basics, back to the beginning.
As the current rough mix of the album plays, I do hear new and unique atmospheres, themes and moods developing - all stuff
informed through years of collaborations and listening. So I feel that I will not be merely replicating my earlier work. Although
I still have a ways to go in editing and mixing the new music, I feel that in the end this release will be a significant contribution
to the Space music genre as well as a genuine personal artistic statement. You must be proud that the Star's End radio
is now over 30 years old, and that you were there from almost the beginning. How would you describe the show's outlook for
the future? I do feel some sense of pride in my involvement
with STAR'S END. The show is totally unique in the radio landscape and I believe it really makes a positive difference in
the lives of the listeners. The five-hour overnight weekend time slot opens up a space for contemplation and creativity or
for some maybe just a more interesting night's sleep. However the show is used or perceived, it is there consistently every
week - for over 30 years - new every time. But I also feel pride (and gratitude) when I think about the listeners who support
the show. Were it not for them STAR'S END would no longer exist - as is the case for so many other worthy public radio shows
that have been removed from the airwaves. As long as there are listeners willing to, not only tune in and listen but, call
in and pledge during the few fundraisers we have - STAR'S END will be okay. I'm pleased to report that the one thing that hasn't
changed after all these years is my enthusiasm for the music. It's wonderful to be involved with something that has so much
potential - I feel I will be pursuing this end for many more years! ♫ Thank you Chuck for doing this interview! We
hope Star's End will be around for another 30 years and then some... Mark Jenkins June 2009 Mark
Jenkins has been part of Britain’s electronic music scene for quite some time now, having been inspired since seeing
Mike Oldfield perform “Tubular Bells” on TV way back in 1974. He has released a number of solo albums, as well
as collaborations with others, including the electronic music band White Noise. In November he’ll be the first British
musician to perform at the Greenwich Planetarium. Let's start with
your upcoming performance at the Peter Harrison Planetarium at The Royal Observatory in Greenwich. How did this all come about? I've always tried to play great venues which offer
fantastic visuals, so have performed in the past at the old London Planetarium, as well as venues like the very modern Teatro
Nacional in Brazilia. I played several planetarium shows in the USA recently, so I contacted London's new planetarium pretty
much as soon as it opened, and they were very enthusiastic. The performance "Supernova" has a fully synchronized computer
graphic show which should look great converted to the dome shape. Will this be a solo performance, or
will others be joining you? This is the launch concert for my "Best Of..." CD
and DVD "Supernova" which is compiled from all my early space music CD's like "Space Dreams" and "Mexico Rising". I've given
the performance a couple of times notably in the big Bochum Planetarium in Germany, but this time the actual album will be
launched, and on the DVD version there'll be a narrative voiceover by Arthur Brown as well as alternative soundtracks in German
and French. The second half of the show is with White Noise playing some new material, and we'll be playing both sets twice. You have done a mix of solo recordings
and various collaborations. What do you like best about working solo, and what
do you like best about working with others? Solo work gives you ultimate control over the music,
though I find it's always best to take some time off when it's nearly finished, play it for other people, and get their input
about the final form of the music and the mix. In the past, collaborating with others has given me textures I couldn't manage
myself - singing voices, flutes, guitars and other instruments. These days I'm working more on my guitar playing alongside
the synths so I'm stronger in that area now. I do like collaborating with singers (most recently with Arthur Brown in the
studio and live on stage in Holland) and haven't imposed my singing voice on anyone yet, though that's coming too. In the last couple of years I've been performing
a lot with David Vorhaus as White Noise. That's a very unusual collaboration because we're literally sharing an instrument;
we're both plugged into his M.A.N.I.A.C. software on a single laptop. Otherwise I haven't done as much band playing as I'd
like; the last major one was with a full rock band lineup with the improvising singer Damo Suzuki from Can and members of
Gong and Here & Now at the Royal Festival Hall. Playing alongside a real rock drummer is a buzz, not something a lot of
solo synth musicians get to do. It’s a great chance to take some of my old classic keyboards like the huge Elka X705
also played by Jean-Michel Jarre out on the stage. I have a prog rock band lineup called Perfect Earth in development, but
don't have a full lineup for it yet. It will sound like classic Pink Floyd. Who did you most feel you really "clicked"
with musically when you performed with them, either live or in the studio? Most of my recent activity has been with David
Vorhaus within the White Noise lineup, and we did some tremendous performances for a project of mine called "The Ceremony
of Innocence"; twice with Arthur Brown and the singer Alquimia, once with a solo cellist and drummer also involved. That album's
getting some remixing done but I think when people hear it they'll really like the mix of electronic and acoustic textures,
which is one of the main things I've always aimed for. I really never liked bands which used all synthesizers and nothing
else. Tangerine Dream used Mellotrons which were really sampled sounds, plus guitars and drums, and Kraftwerk used the Optigan
(a kind of digital Mellotron) and voices, and I really liked Mike Oldfield and his layers of guitars, voices, winds and keyboards.
I have trouble now listening to music which is just layers and layers of analog synths.
Do you actively set out to work with
others, have they sought you out, or is it a little of both? Any particularly
interesting stories of how some of these relationships were established? I've always been interested in adding anybody who
can do something I can't, and most recently with the "Ghosts of Mars" CD "Something Dancing In The Darkness" taught myself
a bit more songwriting (at least in a techno ambient dance style, nothing complex) for Alquimia to create some more commercial
style songs. A lot of the other collaborations came about naturally with musicians whose albums I was releasing. Steve Jolliffe
plays winds on one CD, Richard Pinhas some feedback guitar on another. But I've always found it difficult to hold a whole
band together. I'm envious of stories like "everyone in Roxy Music went to art school together" or "everyone in Genesis was
at the same boarding school". Living in central London and mixing with musicians who are always moving around or who have
families and day jobs makes it much more difficult to hold together anything like that. In addition to making music, you've
written extensively about it, having published a book on analog synthesizers, and of course numerous music reviews. It seems like usually musicians and reviewers are two different breeds, how is it you came to do both and
what do you feel you bring to the table as a reviewer? I was pretty actively interested in electronic music
when I was studying, then looking for jobs in TV and magazines, and was lucky enough to get onto one of the first of the electronic
music magazines. After that I never really worked on anything else, and was able to tie in special events with the various
magazines, and meetings and interviews with musicians, with the type of concerts and promotion I wanted to do, so I've been
very lucky. Most of the people I collaborate with now I met through interviewing them, though of course more recently I can
more or less call up anyone I'm interested in. Most music paper people aren't musicians. For instance, when I worked for Melody
Maker they didn't like Kate Bush because they said she was a "real muso." To
be fair though, there's a lot of enjoyment to be had from listening to music and not really understanding it. Knowing how
it works and exactly what you're listening to definitely spoils the enjoyment in a lot of cases. For example a British musician
who shall be nameless put out an album with a big picture of a classic old ARP analog synth on the cover, which looked interesting
enough for me to buy. The whole of the first half was just Preset No.1 on a recently released Roland synth played endlessly,
so a complete travesty as far as I was concerned. But anyone who didn't know
that stood a much better chance of enjoying it, I suppose. You haven't been shy about stating
your honest opinion in your music reviews. Have you ever regretted any of the
more negative reviews you've made, or changed your mind later about the music or the artist in question? Unfortunately solo electronic music admits of no
objective quality control, so I think the standard over the years has been pretty low. The standard of musicianship for example
in prog rock bands is infinitely higher, and I think that's the fact in any conventional band music area - so I'm sure there
are really great surf music or jug band CD's being released too. As mentioned above, I can tell a lazy electronic music release
very quickly, and I think some of the long established names in the field as well as their more unimaginative imitators have
been guilty of these recently, though many reviewers insist that they're still going from strength to strength. Most of the
"reviews" published these days are by sellers who have to shift the CD's; a culture of encouraging more constructive criticism
over the last 25 years would have helped keep electronic music out of the tiny ghetto which it now inhabits. Usually musicians want to read books
about how to use and program their synthesizers, but your book, Analog Synthesizers, goes more in depth into the
history of them. Why did you decide to write from this perspective? I wasn't covering a specific synth but a whole genre,
so it wouldn't have been possible to go into detail about programming them all, though there are lots of general hints and
tips in the book (as well as a CD full of sounds which really lets you hear what you should be aiming for). But I felt the
history of the analog synth hadn't been fully put into context, at least not from a non-USA perspective, though there had
been good coverage of the Moog, ARP and Oberheim stories. So my book really lets you know what was going on in the UK, Italy
and Japan at the same time that the American synth manufacturers were flourishing, and gives an idea of how all that activity
ground to a halt, started up again after Acid House, and started to co-exist with software sound synthesis. I see the book has been adapted for
Amazon's popular Kindle device. How do you think readers' experience will compare
in this format, and are you in favor of it? I haven't seen the Kindle version but I think
inevitably electronic books will become popular. I can already see that the print magazine is falling away in favor of the
website. In London these days they hand out free newspapers at the underground stations; then 1.5 million papers per day get
thrown away. I think very soon we will receive that sort of publication just by waving our Kindle or similar at the turnstile
on the way into the station. Anyway, I've gone fully virtual myself; I have my own web magazine EMIX now (http://emixmagazine.wordpress.com)
for electronic music, technology and media reviews, and will link that to other news services around the world. Do you consider
yourself old school or new when it comes to physical CDs versus music files? Do
you lean strongly toward one camp or the other, or do both have their benefits as far as you are concerned?
I do like vinyl (I have about 3,000 LP's but they're
currently in storage) and CD's (which I've had to crate up without their plastic cases, but again I have around 3,000-4,000
so they're difficult to access). I've started using MP3 files a lot but hardly ever buy anything by download, just a couple
of singles I wanted to work out arrangements for. But the purchase of a download is never going to give the same sense of
connection to an artist as owning their album or CD, so I think it's become part of the process of music no longer being a
way of making a living, just a hobby which almost anyone can partake in. Two hundred years ago you could make a living as
a poet; 30 years from now, I think it will be possible to be a really great musician, a popular musician, a creative musician,
but maybe it just won't be something you can do for a living any more.
What would you say to encourage someone
starting out today as an electronic musician? What would you tell them to focus
on? There's a festival in the UK which bizarrely describes
itself as an "Electronic Music Festival", but the lineup is almost all DJ's. This is the only area in which anyone will find
any action these days, other than an avant-garde academic field inhabited by the likes of Scanner. So if you want to do electronic
music, do not wear a cape, do not surround yourself with the gear, but try to look accessible, get a fashionable haircut,
do something populist, and try to sing, or find and get along with a singer, even if the singing is not the most important
part of the music. Lady Gaga is electronic music - kinda. ♫ Thanks
Mark for the interview, and good luck with your planetarium show this autumn! Between Interval May 2009 Stefan Strand is the young man behind Between
Interval, an ambient collective of one. For a more thorough introduction to the man behind this excellent music, you have
several options, as he has not one but two very good webpages. One is his band webpage, with, of course, information about the band. For a more in depth look at the man himself, check out his blog and his biography. As I said in this month's review of his latest CD, he truly is one of my favorite artists of the moment. I am
very pleased to introduce Stefan to EAS readers. What does Between Interval mean, and how did
you come up with that name? When I started out making electronic music, nearly everything
I did was within club music genres. Production-wise, there are so many rules to follow when making club music. After a while
I felt strongly that I had to break out of it somehow and try out something completely different. 'Between Interval' is a
name sprung out of that feeling. It was the name I used whenever I took breaks from the regular intervals in music. These
days I compose a lot more ambient music than club music though, but the name still hangs in there, nowadays symbolizing more
of taking a break and shutting out the 'real world' for a moment, disappearing into the ambient void. That's correct, I changed my last name a while ago. There's
no thrilling story behind the change though. Strand is a name from my family a few generations ago, and I've been thinking
about taking it back for a good amount of years, but never gotten around to doing it until now. Yeah I've had some really amazing and overwhelming reviews!
Thank you Phil, and everyone else! Initially I dove right into the ambient/space music genre without any particular plans,
expectations or guidelines, allowing myself to experiment with the sounds wholeheartedly no matter the outcome of it. Maybe
that feeling of tentatively exploring freedom shines through in the music somehow, I don't know. I'm not sure if I'm the right
person to answer this. For me, it's probably a matter of knowing my studio setup
very well. With a studio as small as mine, I can focus on creating music instead of learning how to use advanced equipment.
Without doubt, I think that hardware synthesizers and other hardware gear is very cool, but the thought that I'd probably
spend more time setting up and learning new equipment than actually creating music is honestly a bit frightening. Every now
and then I expand my studio little by little, but I'm taking it slowly at my own pace. And about the trade secrets, well it's
not really a secret, but reverb is always present in my music. Lots of it :) First of all, thanks for the compliments! This is a tough
one, but I see what you mean. Actually several of my fellow music making friends are also working with the web in one way
or another. I can only speak for myself though, but for me it's probably a combination of the wish to create something, and
my interest in technology. I don't think that electronic musicians are more talented than anyone else; however they are usually
interested in not only the music, but also the electronic equipment. And with the electronics and computers, web design and
programming are close at hand, just as with digital photography and photo editing. If I had the time and money, I'd probably
be experimenting with short films as well. I did some of that back at senior high school and really loved it. It's very time
consuming though, and doesn't fit into my life right at this point in time. The most obvious difference compared to my previous
albums is the fact that the tracks aren't mixed together to a continuous flow on this one. Instead the tracks are clearly
divided into separate pieces. However there's still a story, or a theme, going as a red line through the album just like in
my previous work. I have worked a bit more with sampled loops this time. There's no percussion, but I'm letting the sounds
form rhythms probably to a larger extent than on previous albums. When composing music, I usually start with a thought
or a feeling. Then I try to make a "soundtrack" to that feeling. The ideal situation for producing music is when this soundtrack
evokes more feelings, thoughts and ideas that inspire me once again. So, the creation process becomes like a loop, starting
out small and growing bigger and bigger when my own creations feed me with new ideas. The Edge of a
Fairytale is my soundtrack to questions about the origin of life, old religious beliefs, stories, legends and myths that have
survived thousands of years. The music is dark, but not dark as in evil, more like a darkness representing the unknown - and
somehow knowing that there's light to be found somewhere ahead. I think that people familiar with my previous work will feel
quite at home with this release. As a kid, my parents often brought me on bus trips through
Europe during the summers. So I have seen quite a few of the countries around here. I don't travel that often nowadays, but
Japan is definitely one of the countries I'd like to return to. My trip there back in 2004 was really amazing. What
was it in particular that moved you about Japan, what was the special connection for you? The contrast between the big cities and the countryside is quite something. Just being in a city like Tokyo,
that has more inhabitants than my home country Sweden, was a cool experience for me. At the same time, the calmness at
a Buddhist temple in the foggy mountains in a remote area really had an impact on me. I have also been a long
time fan of Japanese movies, animation, video games, and interested in the culture in general. So I was quite excited to visit
the home country of some of my favourite soundtrack composers like Kenji Kawai, Joe Hisaishi, Yasunori Mitsuda and Nobuo Uematsu.
There's something special about the music these Japanese composers create, I can't define it, but it really touches and inspires
me in a special way. You mention you have some
other aliases, including Halftone, where you work with Olof Lönnroth. Will Between Interval remain a solo project?
Any other collaborations planned in the future? The collaboration with Olof was really
fun. He's both a very talented singer and producer. He's been singing on a few of my club/house music tracks as well, that
go under my alias Monodrive. I hope that we can make more Halftone-tracks in the future, but it's a bit tricky due to the
fact that we live quite far from each other. Of course it's always possible to work via internet (we did that on the previous
release), but it can be hard to find momentum. Between Interval will most likely remain a solo project, yes, but there might
be more remixing of other artists coming up in the future. There might be collaborations as
well, although I have nothing particular in store at the moment. Are you making music pretty
much continuously, or do you take a break in between albums? For example, have you started work yet on the new album,
and any idea what it will be about? I make music more or less continuously,
there are no breaks in particular. However I'm working at a full time job these days, which gives me less time for music than
earlier. I have no intentions of giving up music though, I just need to work to be able to pay my rent. Actually I haven't
started working on my next album yet - or maybe I have, without being aware of it. I guess you could say it's in an early
stage, where I'm collecting data and inspiration that eventually will form my next album. I don't know yet what it'll be about. Do you listen to your own
music after the albums are completed? Yes I do! I know there are artists
and musicians out there claiming they never listen to their own music, something I find really odd. I create the
music that I want to hear, so naturally I listen to it as well. And I need to listen to my own sounds to be able to find the
details that work well, the parts that I really like, and sometimes parts that I'm not too fond of afterwards. It helps me
when creating new music. What other music do you listen
to for your own enjoyment? Any particular favorites at the moment,
ambient or otherwise? Lots of electronic music. There are
far too many good artists out there for me to mention them here and now. But to give you a hint about what I've been listening
to recently, I can mention Lulu Rouge's deep techno album "Bless you", and Swedish drum'n'bass artist Seba's
collaboration with Krister Linder entitled "Blaze and fade out". Ambient-wise in recent times I've been discovering and enjoying
the music of John Serrie, and lately I've found myself listening a lot to movie soundtracks like Cliff Martinez' soundtrack
for Solaris and the soundtrack for Michael Clayton, composed by James Newton Howard. If you had to pick a single greatest influence on your music
- a person, a style of music, an album, a mood, anything - what would it be? Wow, can I pick only one? There's so much that influence me! I guess it has to be something from my childhood
then. The obvious choice would be either Pink Floyd or Jean Michel Jarre. But that simplifies it somehow. What initially pointed
me towards electronic music was the video & computer game soundtracks of the late 80's and early 90's, before
I discovered Jarre and Pink Floyd. Maybe I can say games from the Amiga-, 8- and 16-bit era, as my answer to your question.
Without them, I probably wouldn't be where I am today. ♫ Thanks
so much for the interview Stefan! Dan
Pound April 2009 Dan Pound
was born and raised in California, now living in the wine country of Sonoma County with his wife, two dogs, a cat, and a fish
named Fred. You can read more about Dan in the bio on his webpage here. Dan
sent me his CD Liquid Planet to review an embarrassingly long time ago, which I
recently dusted off and listened to when he sent me his new album Esoterica. Both
are excellent, as you’ll see on the Reviews page this month. I immediately asked Dan for an interview, and he thankfully
agreed. You are classically
trained in a number of instruments. Why did you decide to focus on electronic music? What exactly is a Lakota flute? A guy by the name of Odell Borg makes these for
his line, High Spirit Flutes, in Patagonia, Arizona. They are Native American Cedar flutes. I have three of them so far in
different keys. They are amazing. The first time I tried one at one of the local music shops, it was immediately familiar
to me and I had to have one. It brought a definite organic and emotional flavor to my sound. I love anything that takes breath
to make the sound. That feels so primal and human to me and makes a nice contrast to the synthetic sound worlds I make. What do you think sets
you apart from other ambient and new age artists? How much does improvisation
play a part in your compositions? What is your favorite
instrument or piece of gear at the moment and why? Would it be fair to
assume, since your music was used for a Greenpeace documentary, that you support their work? You must have been very
proud to have them use your music. I've always thought of music as a way and a passage
vessel to help transport one to another plane, and to help the entire thought process explore and transmit higher
themes than the usual everyday internal dialogues. This type of music along with say, yoga, is a perfect combination
to achieve such a state. So what do you do when you aren’t
making music? I like to read, mostly philosophy and "how to" books.
I like learning about and how to do new things. This week, I rebuilt a small pond in my
back yard. I like to landscape, cook, build things, write, and listen to music. I love movies. I like photography. Have you started on your next musical
project? What's it going to sound like, any idea yet? I have most of a CD recorded called Living Planet that is almost ready for the final mixing and mastering stages after a few more brush strokes. In
this one, you'll hear a lot of modular analog drones, along with very spacey atmospheres, some techno flavored grooves, some
great lead synth parts, a little guitar looping, and lots of shamanic infusion. I did more vocal stuff on this one than usual,
as well as more rhythmic based tracks. It's very much Shamanic space music but with a slight techno edge. I believe that it's
my best work to date. What's the best advice or feedback
you've been given about your music? I was lucky enough to have a three day, one-on-one
master class stint with Steve Roach at his Timeroom Studio in December 2007. Along with all the technical areas, he also gave
me many words of advice that I have retained in my memory and refer to often. The main thing that stands out is that he questioned
the integrity of my CD releases at the time. They were flying out of my studio at a rapid fire rate. These were CDs with strong
ideas, lots of substance and emotion, but they were CDRs not replicated CDs, and the labels were the peel and stick on type,
and many times these were not playable in basic players. Also, there are a lot of EQ obscurities in these recordings and mixes
that I wasn't hearing at the time that I hear now. I've since learned many critical listening skills, as well as fine tuned
my studio environment and monitor setup. Steve taught me about these things as well. The whole way I record, monitor, mix
and even compose has completely changed since. Also the final product is now a professional replication of the original master
with screen printed artwork, so there are no errors with these discs. I take more time with the music now; there is no hurry
to release the next title until it's really ready. I owe Steve much, and realize now that he really pushed me to the other
side where I finally found my own sound, and now I'm just perfecting that. What advice would you give someone
else starting out in this genre of music? I would say it's okay to emulate others at first
because you learn a lot by doing this, but that in the long run, if you're serious about music making, you have to find your
true self in your music; it should be your own sound. When I first started out as a singer/songwriter, one of the problems
I had with song writing in general was that my rebellious nature took over when it came to the rules of the trade. I wasn't
a top notch writer because my intros were too long, or I took too long to get to the chorus, or I didn't include a bridge,
or the melody wasn't memorable enough, or the verses sounded too much like the chorus, etc. The great thing that turned me
on to this genre is that there really are no rules. This made it fun to create music and sound worlds. I could just compose
what I thought was cool and moving and just hoped that others would get it. This helped me find what works for me and to just
be real, and produce music that emulates only what my emotions and states of mind are. The best works of music, that people
love for years on end are the works that are totally original and outside the box. My best advice is to take chances, break
the rules and be real to yourself. Find your own sound. New age music seemed to peak in popularity
around the 80s or early 90s, and may have dropped off a little since then. What do you think of the current outlook for the
future of new age, ambient and electronic music in general? I think it's getting harder to define what New Age
music is anymore. There are so many subgenres out there. That's the problem with people relying on definitions and title labels.
Some of us artists are hard to find out there because our music is not even definable by any known genre or even subgenre.
Take for instance my own music. Some of it is dark ambient, some space music, some soundtrack, some new age, some experimental,
some meditation music. In general, I think the outlook is good as more people are hungering for what’s different, especially
in other regions like Europe and Japan and elsewhere. I hope it becomes more experimental, rather than continue the pop-infused
phase it seems to be in right now. What do you like best about making
music? Music to me is God's gift to us. It's the
perfect, safe drug. I'm not a very religious person, but I am of a spiritual nature, and that's what making music is to me
- a spiritual experience. It's the one thing in my life that I can construct and manipulate exactly how I want to. When I
am in the creating phase of music making, I am not in this world, I am somewhere else. I guess it's not entirely true that
I control all of it either. I am somewhat of a conduit for the receiving of aural vibrations that eventually twist and turn
to create this living sound space that one can literally live in and even return to at a different time. Making music is the
one thing I do foremost, just for me. The nice by-product is that other people tune in and like it too. ♫ Thanks
Dan for the interview, and for the music! Mystical Sun March 2009 Your identity
seems somewhat elusive. We know Mystical Sun is Richard from California, but little else. So what else can you tell
us about yourself as a way of introduction? There isn't much to tell, my name is Richard and
I live in California. It happens that I produce music and release it and have been at this for as long as I remember.
Discovered a way of making music and have been evolving it ever since. Music is only useful if other people hear it
too. With the notion that it might be helpful and enjoyed by others the music is released. My identity isn't elusive when put into context.
When someone makes popular music, the public expectation is that they need to promote themselves as an entertainer.
The Mystical Sun project is abstract music for listeners and seekers to enjoy in their own space. Since there isn't
a Mystical Sun performing act, there is no performer to promote and no reason to focus on anything other than the music itself.
On a practical note, it takes too much time and energy to write bios, take pictures and think about a public image.
I'd rather just make new music or a video as it is more productive use of the time. What were your musical influences
growing up? What did you listen to? And what do you like to listen to now? All the sounds ever picked up by the ears and stored
in the brain were my influences. Everything input is filtered and then returned to the world in a new form. It's
impossible to isolate specific influences. I enjoy the abundance of sound, take everything
in, see something in it. There are many talented musicians out there producing now and there's some very incredible
music out there just over the horizon. Describe your musical training and
background. Self taught over time. I play a few instruments
and run a computer. Music is a discipline and an art and I approach it in that manner. I study many of the the
world's musical forms and research sound synthesis on a constant basis. Particularly I've focused in on micro-harmonics,
the sounds that are more or less overtones as an area for further development. You've mentioned that you view your
current album, Energy Mind Consciousness, as something to be listened to as a whole. What is the message or
effect you are trying to convey? The effect of a movie soundtrack sans the movie;
the opposite notion of the shuffle play way; if an album is a movie then a song is a scene and the scenes go in sequence. The
music is instrumental, because there's no specific message. It is about creating a sense of place and a sonic landscape;
more akin to an experience. If you go to a national park like Yosemite, what's the message Yosemite is trying to convey?
The question doesn't make sense, Yosemite is an environment. I like to leave open the interpretation of the music
to the listener and keep things as abstract as possible. My job is to produce music that
people can use in their lives to fill the spaces they are looking to fill. The music covers the walls with sound and
creates an environment. All the sounds are custom designed and no loops were used in the production. It takes a lot
longer to make an album when you don't take the readymade shortcuts. The songs have a linear non-repeating structure
which makes them less accessible to most people. This has the disadvantage of rendering the tracks difficult to remember,
which is why most popular music is hook laden. But, it also has the advantage of giving the songs a longer shelf life
because hooks are the first thing that date and wear a song out. Still for most this album will slip past them unnoticed
as it is very subtle; by design it’s for a niche audience. Does your music start with an
idea in your head, or notes on paper, or do you just start playing around in the studio, or what? Every song and project comes about in a different
and unpredictable way. There's no process or repeatable steps. When the inspiration comes, I try and capture it.
I try and start a project with no preconceived ideas about it and follow the clues and leads along the way. The answer
is all of the above. What do your pets or other roommates/family
members think of your music? My family says they like it and are very supportive. Once you've finished an album, do
you listen to it for your own enjoyment? Only after a long period of not hearing it and sometimes
in gaps of years. My job was to make the songs and listen to them very closely then. I spend an extra long time
on each track and a track might be in the works for many years, so I hear them so many times that distance is required to
regain perspective after they are complete. Have you started your next project
yet? Any idea what it's going to be like, anything you'd be willing to share about it? Almost, still producing videos for Energy Mind
Consciousness. Before moving on to a new project there are some album support tasks at hand. Nothing to report
on the new project this moment as it hasn't formed. I know from past experience that it will be different from the current
album, but still have something Mystical Sun about it. Very much looking forward to working on new songs and seeing
where that leads. You've really embraced the internet,
mp3 files, that sort of thing, for making and marketing your music. Do you think the CD is on its way out? And
what do you think the future will bring to music technology? The first album was released in 1994 and at that
time the normal way to release music was to get signed to a label and then hope their distribution channels could get the
music out there. However at this same time the internet was gaining initial acceptance and there were only a few sites
compared to now. The internet fans embraced the music made it possible to get it out to others around the world.
Mystical Sun was lucky to be in a window of time when there were fewer people making music and fewer artists on the internet.
This allowed for the project to become known and find a few fans. Nowadays the opposite is true an artist becomes a
drop in the world wide ocean. The future of music technology is unlimited.
More people will be making music because the tools are going to be everywhere. The line between listening and creating
will blur more, putting the listener in control. The role of the artist will be something like a content provider.
The cultural aspect of the music industry is in for a big change as people will lose interest in stars as they become capable
of creating their own entertainment. Technology is flattening the music industry hierarchy and democratizing access.
So do you consider this a good thing
or a bad thing, and why? The answer is both and neither. Look at what
is happening with video sites, blogging and social networks. It's neither good or bad, because times, events, cultures,
art and everything else change anyway. The 20th century culture and music business created a model and it ran for more
than half a century. Something has to replace it to keep up with technology. Change creates new opportunities
and destroys some older ones. The best one can do is ride the changes like a wave. Will you continue to work as a solo
project, or are you considering any collaborations in the future? Anyone in particular you'd like to work with? Probably both. The project is based around
my time availably. If events are favorable there will be collaborations, but unsure of with whom. What do you hope to be doing 10 years
from now? Unknown. Predicting that far ahead is difficult.
Anything can happen between now and then, there are many possible futures. I know for certain that I am not certain
about anything. If quantum particles are uncertain then how can people be? Are we now where we expected to be
10 years ago? The probability is there will be another Mystical
Sun album around 2010 and compilation appearances along the way. ♫ Thanks Richard for the interview, and for introducing
me to your music. Everybody check out his new album on iTunes or on his website. You’ll be glad you did! Javi
Canovas January
2009 There is virtually no personal information
about you that I can find on the web. (Ed. note: this has now changed, Javi has a new webpage, check it
out at www.javicanovas.com.) So who is Javi Canovas really? Where were you born, where do you live now, what is your
musical background? I was born in Santa Cruz de Tenerife and
actually I live in this town. It is in the Canary Islands. I live here still. I've travel very little and I never have visited
another country. I studied piano in the Conservatory of Music
for 4 years and I learned to play duduk in a workshop with the Armenian master Vardan Hovanessian. I learned electric guitar
by myself. Was your first love electronic music
or something else? EM was the first that I remember, but at
the same time I listened to progressive rock, including Yes, Jethro Tull, Genesis, Camel, and ELP. I also listened to jazz
rock, such as Pat Metheny, Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, and various artists on the ECM label. Who is your greatest influence in
terms of EM? Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Vangelis,
Kraftwerk and the first works of Jean-Michel Jarre.
Music
fills almost all my life but I also like literature, cinema, philosophy and photography. How
did you discover electronic music, since you have always lived on the Canary Islands?
Was it through the internet? I can’t imagine record shops there just happened to have Tangerine Dream and Klaus
Schulze on the shelves, or did they? I
discovered it searching between LPs and cassettes of my brother. Surprisingly there were LPs of TD, Schulze, Vangelis, etc.
in many records shops. Although these islands are culturally Caribbean the Anglo influence was still very strong in the eighties.
So for example I could buy Tangerine Dream’s "Exit" punctually when it was released. How
old were you when you got your first synthesizer, and what was it? Do you still have it? I
think I was nineteen or twenty when I had my first synthesizer, a Roland JX8P. But I had to sell it due to economic difficulties. Do
you primarily use hardware or soft synths to create your music? What is your
studio set up like? I
started composing with soft synths and then I bought some hard ones. I have an Alesis Andromeda A6, Korg MS 20, Roland SH
201 and Clavia Nord lead 2x. Do
you have a particular favorite tool or sound when composing your music? At
first it was Reason software and now the Andromeda. Where
do you get the inspiration for your musical ideas? For example, for some it is
nature, for some it is science fiction, for some it is their spirituality, or something else. There's
no a clear relation between concrete motives or images and the music; it is born spontaneously. Then it generally transforms
in an introspective way, where I watch all kinds of things in my mind; emotions, or visual scenes of the past or present.
But I can't tell you about defined motives or inspiration – sometimes it could be many, or sometimes none. It is based
predominantly on general sensations or very abstract, surrealistic ideas. How
do you go about composing a piece of music? Do you improvise, or are you very
intentional about what you set out to do? Mostly
times I compose while playing but other times, I find ideas in my mind before write or play them. I don't have a fixed way.
It depends on circumstances. Your
first couple of albums had very long Berlin school tracks with lots of sequencing. Now you seem to do shorter tracks with
a lot more structure in terms of the melody. Is this the style of music you plan
to continue making for the time being? Will you possibly go back to making longer
pieces of music? Normally
I don't plan an album before I start to do it. I'm not sure what form the next album will take; perhaps I’ll return
to long pieces, I just don't know yet. How
many other musicians have you met, either via the internet or other means? Have
you created music with anyone else? I
collaborated with The Omega Syndicate on the track "Anamorphosis" from the album Riding the Revelations. Brendan
Pollard and I are planning a collaboration for his next CD. I played the duduk for some tracks by Rudy Adrian, which I hope
will be released sometime this year. What
is your next project going to be, and when can we expect to hear it? I
haven’t started the new album yet, so I can't say anything concrete. It will be along this year. Anything
else you’d like to say to EAS readers? Simply send them very warm regards and encourage
them to continue listening to the electronic music that you write about on Electroambient Space. Two inteview this month! Keep reading... Michel van Osenbruggen January 2009 Michel van Osenbruggen is the man behind Synth.nl
from the Netherlands, recording fun upbeat electronic music. For general background on Michel, check out his well-written
detailed bio on his webpage, or check out his blog. You mention on your
webpage that you have no significant formal music training, and still don’t read music. How do you go about creating
it? On your blog you have
some cool pictures of your studio set up. How did you gather such an impressive collection of gear? Michel,
thanks so much for the interview! ♫ Pete Kelly November 2008 Pete Kelly aka Igneous Flame is a full-time musician who lives near the edge of the North York
Moors in England with his partner and his dog. He notes that he has lived in cities all his life until moving out to the Moors
and that there's a world of difference. Pete has worked in the Electronics Industry and the Arts - which he much preferred
- and has exhibited as a ‘sound-artist’ as well as creating soundtracks for short films and theatre productions.
He has been releasing his Igneous Flame material since 2003 and hopes to carry on releasing work in the future. He says that
he works slowly, aspiring to constant improvement and diversification. Let's see what else he has to say in this month's interview... Your MySpace page mentions that you have a Master's Degree in Music Technology. Where did you study, and what
was involved in completing the program? I got
that degree at York University in 1998. It was quite an intensive course, some of the material covered turned out to be very
useful, some of it not. From memory we covered such topics as: Studio Techniques, Programming, Basic Electronic theory, Acoustics
and Electro-acoustic music. York was big on Ambisonics, a form of surround sound; my dissertation was concerned with the compositional
use of surround sound. I was very interested in that for some time, but I feel it's something that just isn't going to catch
on. I must
credit the course with starting my ambient 'career'. I was set an assignment to create an electroacoustic piece, made from
transformed field recordings and synthesized sounds. I worked on some Silicon Graphics machines that were high-end at the
time and I predominantly used a program called 'MIX' which was developed by NoTAM in Norway. It was visually not dissimilar
to a lot of track based Digital Audio Workstations (DAW's) of today. The visual representation of sound - waveforms / spectrograms
and being able to move 'blocks' of sound around a time-based grid was a revelation to me after having used traditional tape-based
setups. I made some of my own pieces using the program using manipulated guitar samples and it really got me thinking that
this was a great way to construct ambient music. I wasn't
new to using computers for music making. I had used the original Steinberg Pro24 / Atari combination as well as early incarnations
of Cubase and GM sounds, but it didn't really work for me. I wasn't wild about the whole MIDI sequencing thing. However, the
prospect of working with audio was a different matter. I was particularly intrigued by 'sound design' - really altering the
original sounds in all manner of esoteric ways. At York, we had access to some very idiosyncratic processing tools such as
the 'Composers Desktop Project' (CDP) which had lots of uber-weird spectral / granular / algorithmic modules, which were run
from command lines on some madly cryptic operating system. Thankfully, similar results can be achieved much more easily these
days! I'm not
a 'techie'; I view tools as a means to an end. I'm not that interested in how something works, I'm much more interested in
what it can do, musically. What
was your musical upbringing - both your training, and your listening tastes growing up? I've played
guitar since I was 16 and am self taught. In my earlier learning years, I went to see lots of bands and watched the guitarist
to see what he was doing. I was very much into heavy rock as a kid and was something of a 'speed-demon' guitar player, which
is ironic considering the nature of the music I am creating now. I'm left-handed, but have learnt to play the guitar 'upside
down' (it not me) to a point which can make for some interesting outcomes. I played in quite a few bands that didn't really
go anywhere, but it was fun. A pivotal
point for me was when I was living in a house with some Buddhists and someone played 'The Pearl' by Brian Eno and Harold Budd
which immediately impressed me as I hadn't heard anything like it before. It's still one of my favourite albums, as are the
'Gone to Earth' album by David Sylvian and the 'Apollo' and 'Thursday Afternoon' albums by Brian Eno. Eno really got me into
ambient music. I listened to his work for a long time. In general,
I like to think I have fairly diverse musical taste; currently I'm much more into music as a whole than just guitar-based
material. What was the first instrument you played? The guitar
(I played the recorder in school, but that doesn't really count). My first guitar was a classical guitar and my first electric
was a Kay that I bought in the 80s. I've had some lovely instruments that I've had to sell on including a left-handed Gibson
Les Paul DeLuxe and a fantastically idiosyncratic Gibson RD Artist. I also played bass in quite a few bands -
usually 'lead bass'! What was your first synthesizer? A Casio
VL tone - I don't know if that can be termed a 'real' synthesizer' ! The only real synth I've owned was a Casio CZ 3000. It
was great fun making sounds on it, but it weighed a ton. I used it on a lot of
4-track work-in-progress recordings in the nineties. I can't really play a keyboard well at all, so it didn't see a great
deal of use. I have a few soft-synths now, which I use in my 'Formbank' beat-based side project. For my Igneous Flame material,
I'm more interested in creating sounds 'from scratch' - manipulating guitar parts / binaural recordings (recordings made using
tiny in-the-ear mics). There are virtually no 'synth' sounds on my Igneous Flame albums. What do you like best about playing guitar? I like
the physicality of the guitar - the vibration, bending the strings and the like. I don't do it now, but playing very loud
and using feedback to sustain notes was a fantastic feeling. When I was younger, I used to go and see lots of bands and I
was always more drawn to what the guitarist was playing. I was excited by the playing of Eddie Van Halen, Todd Rundgren, Uli
Roth, Alex Lifeson and Michael Schenker to name but a few. What is your favorite musical toy at the moment? At the
moment, I'm getting to grips with all manner of samplers, beat-slicers and drum pattern thingies. I'm currently working on
producing the debut album by UK artist Achromus. This will entail working in a completely different way that I'm used to.
I'm having to integrate audio and sequenced stuff and add guitar parts, so I'm having to learn some new tricks - which is
good fun. I've done reworks in the past and have always found the process to be musically stimulating. So I suppose the computer
is my favorite musical toy, in that I do pretty much everything on it. In fact, pretty much all of my music could only be
created using a computer as virtual studio, due to some of the techniques I use. I've worked in the past with ADATs / mixers
/ external FX units and the like and I wouldn't go back to them. Your music has a very free flowing quality, but also seems pretty well put
together. How much is deliberate composition versus improvisation? Referring
primarily to the beatless side of ambient, I feel that the compositional element is much 'underlooked'. I spent years working
on guitar and studio techniques prior to releasing my debut album 'Tolmon' in 2003. In the same way, I think that compositional
skills are something that is developed over time, with discrimination being a particularly relevant factor. If there's
an improvisational element in my work, it’s in the initial stages of a track. I play a few chords and experiment with
different processing techniques or start off with a field recording and do the same. The 'live' element in this case is the
capturing of some real time manipulations / tweaking which I record with another program. However, on my primarily guitar
based 'Astra' and 'Satu' albums, there are guitar lines that I improvised over tonal drones and textures. I start
to construct a piece, paying attention to dynamics so that the piece has a structural variety as well as a tonal variety.
I tend to use a selection of sounds that fit together, sometimes adding sounds from another (unfinished) track. I like to
'theme' tracks and in some cases a track is built entirely from a single source sound - usually a guitar part of some kind
- made into multiple variants. Sound-design is a big part of my work, as is recycling - recycling the recycled, to obscure
the source. Quite a lot of my tracks have changing tonal centers, which I think is unusual in ambient music, certainly in
drone-ambient. I should
say that while I have enjoyed improvisation greatly in the past (jamming in bands and the like) and I do miss it, it's not
the approach I now adopt to create music. The way I do things now takes a long time; I leave out a lot and self-edit rigorously,
but I wouldn't be comfortable with, for example, playing long solos over backing tracks and using that as a basis for an album.
I've done enough of that! I prefer to work in more of a 'wide-angle' manner, in terms of viewing an album as a whole. Whilst
being able to 'zoom in' to really concentrate on tiny parts which could be only a few seconds in duration, but need the necessary
attention to detail that is required to be incorporated into the track as a whole.
You said that there's a world of difference between living in the city and living where you do now.
How so, both for life in general and in terms of your musical creativity and/or inspiration? And which do you prefer, or do
they both have their plusses and minuses? I used
to live in Leeds which is one of the biggest cities in the UK and before that, Middlesbrough, which is considered to be one
of the worst places to live in the country. So, I could be considered a 'city boy'. The 'town' and the 'country' naturally
both have positives and negatives. It took me quite a while to adapt to living in the country. Initially, I found there was
much less 'to do' relative to the city. But that became a positive over time. In a sense, the country is the more 'ambient'.
There is less stimulation - which is good for my work. For me, it's the beauty and easy accessibility of the North York Moors,
which is the primary positive element, as well as the general lack of city blight - violence, sprawl, paranoia and noise. On the
subject of noise, where I live can be very quiet, which I very much appreciate, but there is the unpleasant high-intensity
noise of military aircraft activity, which I wasn't used to in the city. Thankfully, this isn't constant - unlike city noise.
Regarding 'visual noise', the country is far more preferable. On a clear night, the starry sky is fantastic. I don't miss
not seeing miles of urban sprawl, busy roads and pylons either! To sum
up, the beauty of nature and the general isolation out here suits me and inspires me. I don't think it's for everyone though.
I'd lived something of a 'full' life previously in the cities, so I can appreciate the differences. How
do you like collaborating with Achromus versus doing your solo material? It is hard for you, since you are so meticulous and
deliberate with your own material, bringing another person into it? For the
'HALO' album, the collaborative process with Achromus was probably an unusual one, in that I was allowed to simply get on
with it. Achromus gave me his source material and I worked on it and completed the project. I sent him work-in-progress mixes
periodically and I incorporated his comments. We never sat down to work together as such - we worked separately on different
stages in the project. I'm currently
working on producing Achromus' debut solo album and that's a different way of working again. I can't comment fully as I'm
in the middle of this one, but as I have mentioned earlier it's very different to my Igneous Flame methodology. I'm keeping
what I feel is the core of his tracks whilst reworking them extensively - in terms of instrumentation, arranging, reworking
parts and the like. That is the collaborative element essentially and again, we are working in isolation on different elements
of the project. The main difference being that this is Achromus' album, so he is writing all the original material. What can listeners expect next from Igneous Flame or other Pete Kelly projects? I will
be releasing my 7th Igneous Flame album 'Electra' in spring 2009. This album will be a selection of some old and new material
- with a theme. It will be 'abstract' guitar ambience, unlike my previous overtly ambient guitar albums. 'Electra' will be
more sonorous and colourful whilst still retaining an esoteric 'core'. The Achromus
debut solo album I refered to earlier will be a 2009 release. It won't be an ambient album as such - it could be described
more as 'instrumental electronic music' really (but not EM). We have similar influences and this album will show us wearing
our Japan / David Sylvian / Harold Budd influences on our collective sleeves! ♫ Sounds like more good stuff to look forward to. Thanks so much Pete for the interview! Evan Bartholomew
October 2008
Though you have
a fairly large web presence, there is very little personal information. How about a brief bio as a way of introduction
- name, age, where you live, family, what you do for a living. Or are these closely guarded secrets as part of the ambient
music mystique and persona? My name is Evan Bartholomew, I'm 31 years old, and recently moved to rural Hawaii. I create music and all that that entails for a living - touring, remixing, scoring, and running a label. Evan Marc, Evan Bluetech, Evan
Bartholomew. So just who is this Evan guy? Why so many names and labels? I've created different aliases which allow me to explore different parts of the musical spectrum without having to stretch any one alias too much. Evan Marc is my alias for forward thinking uptempo music like tech-house, minimal, techno. Evan Bartholomew is for more experimental soundscape, ambient, modern classical stuff. My Bluetech alias is for all things electronic, downtempo, glitch, dub, etc. How long have you been on the music
scene, and how did it start? Was it always about electronic music, or did you start in other genres? I played classical music since I was a little kid, but started on the scene in 2000 DJ'ing psytrance music. By 2002 I had shifted into downtempo and was working on the material that became the first Bluetech album. You have the most amazing cover art
I've ever seen - hand stitched, homemade paper, with beautiful artwork. I think it is wonderful. But in a day
and age when music is becoming more disposable and downloadable than ever before, why go to the effort? I feel like you answered your own question! It’s precisely because less and less people buy music, that we go to the extra effort to make really special packaging. Instead of just being another plastic disc in a plastic case, we create numbered limited edition pieces of art, which I believe are an incentive to supporting the music. So I'm thinking there's not a lot of call for DJing in rural Hawaii ... I didn’t move to rural Hawaii to be getting a lot of DJ gigs! I just moved out here a few months ago, though I lived her for awhile 10 years ago previously. I’m sure there is an electronic scene here, but I haven't really sought it out. How can you afford to live in Hawaii
and just do ambient music? Are you living in a hut and growing your own food or what? I afford to live in Hawaii and do ambient
music because I treat my music career like a day job. I get up and put in my 8 hours a day running the labels, writing
new music, searching out gigs, and doing all of the menial office works that goes with trying to keep a record label floating. Do you live alone in your rural getaway?
Any family, friends, pets? Do they like your music? I have a dog named Kaia who is a blue eyed
Siberian Husky, though all of my family is on the west coast. I hope Kaia likes my music, though whenever I ask her,
she just kind of wags her tail and puts her paw up on my foot, so I’ll take that as a yes. What made you decide to move there? I tour enough that I get hyper urban overdose I think. There is something about being in 5 or 10 different cities in a short period of time that makes one really crave solitude and quiet somewhere in the country. How and when did you meet Steve Hillage,
how did that come about? What was it like recording with him? I originally met Steve and Miquette at Glade Festival in the UK, though I've been listening to System 7 music since high school. We hit it off, and they licensed a few tracks of mine for a compilation they were putting together for Platipus Records. I started working on Dreamtime Submersible, and had a feeling that it would be a much better album with the addition of Steve's signature guitar parts, so I asked him and it just kind of came together. Hopefully it’s not our last collaboration! How do you decide what music ends
up under which pseudonym? Do you compose/record it with a particular project/name in mind, or do you just record a bunch
of stuff and decide later which ones "fit"? I definitely compose with a specific project in mind. Bluetech music is what I tour with most of the time, so I tend to write stuff that has a really kinetic personality to it, like some cosmic space hop - stuff that will move people on the dance floor as well as entertain them intellectually, and hopefully impart a spiritual component to their dance. When I’m a particular techno mood, usually inspired by listening to something that gets me going, I write for the Evan Marc project. When I’m feeling more intimate, or melancholic, or subdued I write ambient and experimental music for the Evan Bartholomew alias. What are your primary sources of musical
inspiration? My primary sources of inspiration are extremely varied. I am inspired by natural forces, and I mean that in a more animistic sort of way. Like the force or energy of the volcano here is an inspiration to me, the way the lava destroys and creates room for new life and new land at the same time. I’m an active dreamer, and many of the scenarios and events that occur in the dreamtime became inspirations for music, though I’m usually looking for a more universal thread, or element that reflects a common mythology, i.e. Phoenix Rising off the new Bluetech release on Somnia. In one sense it’s about the larger mythos of the phoenix, but it’s also about a very personal and intense dream involving the energy of the phoenix, which affects and directs the way that I live my life. What about your collaboration with
Steve Hillage? Did you record together, or swap sound files across the net, or what? Steve and I swapped files across the internet. He's in the UK, so it’s hard for us to physically work together. Sometimes I think that is better in a collaborative environment, as each person has their home base where they are used to creating. I wrote base tracks and sent them to him, and he did a number of passes over what I had written and sent the parts back to me so that I could construct, edit, and reconfigure them to make it all work as a story. Do you use both soft synths and actual
gear? Any favorites? I'm almost entirely digital at this point. I had recently invested in a modular analog system, but sold it as I knew the Hawaii weather wouldn't be too kind on those circuits. I am looking at the new Dave Smith analog devices with a bit of gear lust however. What do you like best about making
electronic music? I like electronic music because after a period of extreme specialization into infinite micro genres, it seems like the horizon is open again. You can make music via electronic means that has the subtlety and sway of Debussy or Satie, music that sounds organic and otherworldly at the same time. Truly there are no rules about what it’s supposed to sound like anymore. It’s liberating as a composer to have that sort of freedom! ♫ Thanks Evan for the interview!
Beta Two Agonist September 2008 Beta Two Agonist is Ian Lizandra,
who resides in The Netherlands and records on the Dutch label Databloem. I was very impressed with his debut album Zero Point
Field, enough so that I named him best new ambient artist of 2007. His latest solo album is excellent as well, plus he has
a new collaboration with Jason Corder - you can read reviews of both in this month’s CD reviews. For a brief bio of Ian, check out
his webpage here. Up until recently, I didn’t even know Ian’s name, so I
figured I ought to get to know him better and enlighten EAS readers in the process. How
about an off-the-wall question to start with – do you have asthma? As
a matter of fact, yes. Since I can remember I've had respiratory problems associated with asthma, so I always carry an inhaler
with me. You
probably guessed the true intent of my first question – what is the origin of your chosen band name? A
beta-2-agonist is a substance that can be found in asthma medication. It relaxes the airway muscles and allows for more air
to reach the lungs. I adopted this moniker when I started making more ambient-based music. I found out later on that Aphex
Twin has a track called 'Ventolin', which is also an asthma medicine that I used a lot as a kid. I have always had a special
relationship with all things air-related, so air - or the lack of it - has always played an important role in my life. Just
breathing in and out is a wonderful thing and the most fundamental aspect of life. Your
webpage says that you were born in Barcelona, the son of a Catalan musician and a Dutch mother. What nationality do you consider
yourself? I
consider myself to be somewhat rootless, nationality-wise. I've never had the feeling of belonging to one nationality. When
I'm in Barcelona I feel somewhat out-of-place or disconnected from that specific culture and when I'm in The Netherlands I
have exactly the same feeling. Although I speak Dutch fluently and without accent, I don't feel Dutch. It's probably because
of growing up between two worlds. I do love the Mediterranean way of life though and love spending time with my Catalan family.
Barcelona is such a vibrant city and it definitely has a special place in my heart. Does
your multicultural background have any impact on the sound of your music? I
don't know if it's clearly recognizable in my own music, but one consequence of having a multi-cultural background is that
in my case, one is more sensitive to both the differences and the similarities between cultures. There are a lot of similarities,
especially in music. For example, in traditional flamenco music people speak of 'duende', which is difficult to translate
but can be seen as a mysterious blend of passion, tragic sadness and expression. It's something that everyone feels when moved
by music or other art forms but no philosopher can explain. By listening to lot of different musical styles from all around
the world I realize that this is something universal, you can hear it in Indian raga, jazz, classical music, electronic music
and so on. In every culture music expresses our deepest emotions and I can only hope that people hear and feel it in my music
too. One thing I like about electronic music is that has no real form or footprint that ties it to a particular culture. It
can take many shapes because it is not limited to instruments or a specific technique or sound. The
Databloem label, and your music in particular, can be difficult to categorize. What do you call it when people ask what style
it is? To
be honest, I always have great difficulties to label my music and most other music for that matter. For sake of convenience
it's ok to use terms like free-jazz, atmospheric ambient, avant-garde or whatever, but the music that moves me almost always
defies boundaries, because it is something that is dynamic and elusive. I use the term atmospheric sometimes, because it implies
that I try to establish an atmosphere with my music, but then again, isn't all music about mood and atmosphere? More often
I just tell people to listen to my music if they're curious to know what it sounds like, but it's funny that most of the time
people just want to categorize. I think it's difficult to label your own music, because you have no distance to it whatsoever.
I find it very difficult to listen to my own compositions objectively, if that is possible at all. I rarely listen to my albums,
besides the actual process of creating them. What’s
the coolest thing and the worst thing about making music on computers? The
coolest thing is that you have an infinite palette of sounds at your disposal, and even more ways to process and mangle sounds
beyond recognition. But at the same time, that is the worst thing about computers or any machine that can be counter-intuitive
and that needs your input. It is easy to become so absorbed by the endless creative and technical possibilities, that it starts
working against you. That's why, for me, it is best to see the computer as a creative tool and instrument, not a means by
itself. One can feel detached from music that way. When I see it as a vessel for expression, everything around me becomes
an instrument. Computers, software and interfaces are the new musical instruments of our time and have expressive and technical
capabilities that are inaccessible to traditional instrumentalists. One thing I am particularly wary about is the idea that
you need more effects, instruments, software or any kind of expensive hardware to make better music. I love equipment too,
and when it comes to certain types of equipment it really makes sense to buy the best quality you can afford, but I'm convinced
that the latest gear won't necessarily inspire me to make music. The same goes for software. I used to have this huge list
of VST plug-ins, now I use only those that prove to be essential. I don't know if it's a good or bad thing that electronic
music is so influenced by software/hardware tools that the medium eventually becomes the message. Describe
how you go about composing a piece. It's
a really intuitive process. Most of the time I start with experimentation and collecting source material, looking for sounds
and not really thinking about whether I can use something for a composition. Those sounds can come from field recordings or
objects lying around, recordings of instruments or can be computer-generated. I leave a lot of room for randomness, chance
and happy accidents. There
is something magical about stumbling upon a sound that really excites me and gets my juices flowing. A composition might start
with a chord, motif or texture that evokes a particular mood. When a sound raises the hairs in the back of my neck, I build
on that emotion, adding to it without compromising that initial gut feeling I had. I try to avoid using the same approach
or compositional method over and over and just let it happen. When I have a rough sketch for a piece, I start refining it
and often a track is combined from several versions or other compositions. When I feel that the composition is well-balanced
musically, I start working on the mixing/mastering stage. It's
not uncommon that images or words are the seeds for a composition, for me there are so many similarities between poetry, music
and visual art. I find it very interesting that these fields are blending more and more. I remember reading something about
certain composers seeing colors and forms when hearing notes or chords. When you think about the fact that colors are vibrations
too, that's actually not very difficult to imagine. Your
music tends to be more about unusual sounds than musical compositions in the conventional sense. So how do you tell when a
piece of music is done to your liking? That
is the most difficult part, realizing that nothing is ever really finished. When I feel that there's nothing I can do or add
that will improve it, I just leave it and listen to it a week later with fresh ears. When the music still captivates me at
that point, I consider it finished. It's actually quite ironic when I stop and think about it; I strive to make the music
sound free-flowing and organic, when it is actually deliberately arranged. I read something about a novelist who said that
writing is more like stripping away, rather than adding. I like to think of
composing the same way and focus on the bare essentials of what I'm trying to convey. Have
you done any live performances yet, and if not are there any plans in the works? Or does your method of composing and playing
not really work for that? Yes,
I do perform live occasionally and I always enjoy it. The challenge for me
in playing live is keeping an experimental and improvisational attitude towards electronic music. Without sounding like someone
merely experimenting with sound in an unorganized fashion or just triggering sequences. It's interesting to note that a lot
of people who are not used to electronic musicians, tend to complain about the lack of 'gestural' performance, such as in
the way a violinist's or pianist's movements are connected to the sound they produce. They just see someone staring at a screen,
pushing knobs and twisting buttons. One of the things I find difficult is that I never consider live performance when I compose
my music, so that I really have a hard time translating it to a live setting. I'd love to find a way to play my music live
like a jazz musician, to have true improvisational freedom. What
is the most unusual sound source you've used for a piece of music? I
was copying from a floppy disk once on a very old computer. Because of the old drive, it made this chittery rhythm. I immediately
got my recorder and started copying files to and from the floppy drive. I also got this amazing surprise when I accidentally
opened a non-audio file in an audio editor. And I used body sounds several times in my compositions. There is a hidden world
of sounds that you would normally not be able to hear, unless you use extreme amplification, like putting something under
a microscope. You can record the strangest sounds using contact microphones or a pick-up coil, of which the latter picks up
electro-magnetic fields. Circuit-bending cheap toys can yield very interesting results too. But
in the end the most important thing for me is that the sound excites me, regardless of its origins. I don't focus on where
a sound comes from, as long as it stirs something in my imagination. One thing I noticed over the years is that my perception
of sound versus noise, if there is any distinction at all, has changed dramatically. I love listening to the murmur and noise
of city and nature alike, or the drones and hums of machines. I've had numerous occasions, when composing, where the sounds
outside would blend with my music. Every time that happens I feel great joy, because I feel that my music at that moment is
part of a whole, as if the world adapts itself to the music, as well as the other way around. One time I had this wonderful
experience where my composition blended with a piece of music from a documentary on TV. I listened in amazement how, in some
uncanny example of synchronicity, two musical fragments that would normally be completely separated in place and time, were
fused into something new. It was wondrous and I darted for my minidisc recorder, but sadly I was never able to capture that
moment. What
is the appeal of adding buzzes, static or distortion - sonic elements that most musicians work carefully to avoid? Kim
Cascone, an artist who himself has made extensive use of glitches and digital sound artifacts, wrote an essay about what he
called 'The Aesthetics of Failure'. He describes it way better than I ever could. For me personally, there is something beautiful
about using errors and grittiness and turning it into harmonic or rhythmical material - especially in this world where everything
is supposed to be perfect on a superficial level. Maybe the crackle, static, clicks and pops of vinyl records influenced me,
as I used to listen to my father's record collection as a kid. It's a very familiar sound to me. Because of our changing environment,
immersed in digital technology, we are confronted with beeps, glitches, clipping, aliasing, distortion, quantization noise
and so on. These tendencies can be seen in other fields as well, such as visual arts. Errors are way more interesting, because
they catch us off guard and challenge our notions of what we define as right or wrong. Interestingly enough, a lot of sounds
that I use come from organic sources and, when taken out of context, can be surprisingly similar to sounds generated by digital
means. I also noticed that these types of sounds are becoming more common in mainstream music too, so that is an indication
that we're growing accustomed to them. You
recently did a collaboration with Jason Corder. How did that come about, and
how did you like it? We
got in touch through an art project I was setting up, for which I was inviting musicians and visual artists. Because Jason
is a label mate on Databloem Records, I thought he might be interested in participating so I got in touch with him. We talked
about how we enjoy making music and he suggested exchanging some material for a possible collaboration. From then on, it just
happened naturally. The first sound you hear on the 'Further to find closer' album is from a prayer bowl, which was the first
sound I sent to Jason. We started processing and mixing the musical fragments after we made a few conceptual decisions, such
as using mostly acoustic instruments as our source. After that we just kept adding elements to each other's sounds or processed
them into something new. Before we knew it, we had almost an hour's worth of material. I
definitely loved working together. There's a term in Dutch that describes the process very well; 'kruisbestuiving'. Literally
it means cross-fertilization, but it is mostly used in the context of two people influencing each other creatively or otherwise.
Working with another musician adds a whole new dimension to the music, because of different approaches and ideas being introduced.
The whole project was a free-form challenge-response improvisation. When Jason introduced a rhythmical idea somewhere along
the line, I responded by developing that idea further. The result is that you can really hear a progression and flow in the
album. Any
other collaborative music projects on the horizon? At
the moment, no. But It's definitely something I want to do more often. One of my long-time wishes is to collaborate with jazz
musicians, because I like the modern jazz approach of experimentation combined with traditional instrumentation. I love that
blend of organic sounds and digital processing. But I'm open to whatever musical avenue presents itself. I want to try to
reinvent myself and find new approaches to make music. Thanks
much Ian for the interview, and for the great music! ♫ August 2008 Mike Griffin I am proud to say I’ve known Mike Griffin almost from the beginning of Hypnos – not quite back to his Chromostatic 1 studio, but I did visit him at Chromostatic 2 on several occasions, since we live within a few miles of each other. I had the pleasure of bumping into him and his wife Lena at a Mexican restaurant a few months back. I interviewed Mike once before, but that seems eons ago, so he willingly accepted my invitation to update the record. For more information about Mike and his label, visit www.hypnos.com, in particular the forum there, where Mike posts frequently. Your brief bio on the Hypnos page is almost apologetic about releasing your bizarre noises for public consumption.
Several releases later, do you now consider yourself a “real” musician? It’s
no secret that there were some bumpy times for a while for the label. Was there ever a time that you thought about hanging
it up, or that the label would fail?
So
are the two of you planning on collaborating musically? We already have collaborated musically already in
some ways. For her first album, I acted as engineer and producer, and while I think of the album as hers primarily, she views
it as more of a 50/50 collaboration. In fact, if I think of some of Brian Eno's collaborations, at times he worked in a role
as conceptualist and producer, using the studio as an instrument, in collaboration with someone like Harold Budd or Jon Hassell
who performed as instrumentalists. I would view that kind of interaction as an "artist/producer" relationship even if the
producer has a big role in how the album sounds, though others would call it a collaboration. From that perspective, you could
say that Lena's first album was a collaboration and could have included both our names on the cover.
Just
what magnitude are we generally talking about for sales of ambient CDs? Are they generally in the thousands, the hundreds? What's
the least amount of sales you've ever had for a Hypnos title?
It's no surprise that such a high percentage of
small labels shut down quickly. If you're getting CDs manufactured and need to sell a couple hundred copies of each
release to cover your costs, you actually have to be more successful than most new labels just to break even. Lots of
people start a label with the expectation of losing a few thousand dollars a year on the venture, just for the fun of being
involved in the music, but working hard AND losing money at the same time gets old quickly.
How closely do you track
sales of Hypnos titles? For example, can you tell me this Jeff Pearce or that Saul Stokes title sold 1124 copies, or
675, or whatever? What is the bestseller in the Hypnos catalog?
We're thinking of creative ways to get ambient music listeners to consider supporting Hypnos, whether it means buying CDs or downloads or CDs with free immediate download, or CDs plus DVD supplements... who knows? So what’s next for Hypnos and for M Griffin? Sounds like Hypnos plans to be around for a long time to come – which is great news for us ambient fans. Thanks so much Mike for the interview! ♫
Jeffrey Koepper July 2008 For more background on this month’s interview
subject, solo American synth artist Jeffrey Koepper, please read his bio page on his website. Thanks Jeff for the interview, I really appreciate it! In April you performed
at The Gatherings concert series. How did that go? The Gatherings concert went great. Chuck Van Zyl and his crew are great guys to work with and everything went
off without a hitch. I think that is the best venue to play live electronic music - being an old stone church the sound is
incredible and it is visually very inspiring. I have become spoiled playing there. It doesn't get much better than that for
atmosphere. Playing live is like nothing else, it is an incredible feeling. For me it is very different from the studio.
The studio is a more controlled intimate solo experience, where it is just you and the machines creating. Live has the energy
of the room and the audience which can really build an intense feeling. This feeling in turn will take you into new directions
for the compositions. Well,
I would say my music is mostly improvised and done in the moment, inspired by the feeling of the moment. I rarely plan and
compose music before I go into the studio. In the studio I work with the machines and the different interfaces they offer,
these interfaces in turn influence the music and how I make music. I try to get as much of the composition going as possible
and then capture it live to a two track mix. I feel that captures the life and energy of a piece. I may then add some textures
and sounds during a final mix. That way the feeling of the composition is captured and there is still room at the end to fine
tune and finalize a piece. The
technology I use to make music is very important. I feel the type of musical equipment you use directly influences the style
and direction the music will take. I list companies such as Arp, Oberheim, Moog, Sequential Circuits and others as influences
because the sound and interface they offer directly influences how I work on a composition. I also feel that most of the music
I like and that I was influenced by was done in the past using that type of equipment; that is proof enough for me. I
could be called a Luddite in the fact that I don't use a computer at all in the studio. Everything I use is hardware,
down to an analog mixing board and recorder. I could never work in the "mouse controlled" world of computer recording and
soft synths. I just can't connect to that world. The gear and old
technology has always been important for me from day one. When I first got into music and bought my first synthesizer in 1985,
it was analog. The funny thing was analog was on its way out of fashion but I just knew from day one I loved analog synths.
People would say to me back then "why do you want that old junk" but I didn't care, I knew what I wanted. During that period
the prices of analog synths dropped very low because there was little or no interest in them from most musicians. So you were
able to buy them reasonably priced. But little by little people started to realize that analog synths were incredible machines
and not outdated, so now the prices are back up to where they should be in my opinion for such wonderful machines. Do you have a personal favorite in your synth collection? I
really can't say I have one favorite synth, they are all so different and good at different things. I love the aspects of
the synths that give them their unique personality. For example ARP instruments are very different in tone to the Oberheim
synths but I like both just as well...they all have their applications. So I guess I love them all equally. But I do really
love everything Arp has done. :) Your discs have a very professional look and sound, from the packaging to the music.
How do you manage to do it all yourself? Wow
thanks for that. I try really hard to bring the best product I can to my audience. I put alot of time and effort into creating
and recording the music. I want it to sound beautiful and lush. Steve Roach has been great with
mastering my records. He's a great guy and I appreciate what he does. Also the packaging and art is important to me, I grew
up with records and incredible 12 X 12 album jackets. I miss that format alot. So with my releases, I try to make them like
mini album covers with the digipak format. Will you remain strictly a solo act, or have you considered collaborating with others?
If so, who would you like to work with and why? I
am always open to collaborations, given the members both have something unique to offer. I have
collaborated with others in the past and there have been some great musical moments. I really enjoy the feeling of creating
new pieces in a group situation. Working with others can lead you in directions you would have never ventured to on your own.
As far as people I'd like to work with in the future, I'd love to do a project with Steve Roach, I think that would be very
cool. What is your favorite part about making music? Well, there are
so many aspects I love about making music, it’s hard to pin it down to one. I guess one thing that I really love is
the creative spark that happens when composing and a piece starts coming together and coming alive. It is a feeling like no
other. This feeling can give me the chills and make you very high and that feeling is also addictive, once you experience
it you want it more and more. Another aspect I love about making music is using the older technology to create and bring
that to the world. I like to show what is possible using just vintage hardware synths and sequencers. I feel that
there is still a lot of good work to be done with this technology and many new directions to explore. With all the time spent
creating music, do you get much of a chance to listen to others? Who are some of your favorites, EM or otherwise? In fact, in addition to the ambient music scene, I do early eighties influenced
analog electropop music under the name Wire Service. I tend not to listen to my CDs for a while after I release them. During and
production and mix down you can really over listen to a piece. I will usually go back after about a month and listen to the
CD after it is fresh to my ears again and check it out. My trusty assistant
is my dog Kali, she is a chuiabull, which is a chuiahuia/pit bull mix. She is a great assistant and helps me with inspiration
and with all my compositions. When I am not making music
I like to restore, build and repair analog synths, this is good for me because I can keep up the studio in great working condition
and is necessary. I like to hike and camp and get out into nature whenever possible. I also like to restore and play around
with old Volkswagens so I keep pretty busy.♫ June 2008 Deepspace
Deepspace is Mirko Ruckels. Born in Germany in 1972, he now lives in Australia and has been making ambient music since 2000. For these and other fun facts about Mirko, visit the bio page on his website. I want to thank Mirko for doing this interview. How do your musical
ideas come about, how are they inspired? How do you decide what
goes onto an album and what doesn’t make the cut? A lot of your music
so far has been given away for free as downloads. Why is that? You were born in Germany,
but now you live in Australia. How did that happen? What is your studio
set up like? What is your favorite hardware and/or software? Is your set up at home or in a studio elsewhere?
Have you done any live
ambient shows? If so, how have they gone over? If not, will you be doing this in the future?
Is there anyone you
would like to collaborate with, or do you prefer creating music alone? Thanks so much Mirkel for the interview! –P.D.
Vir Unis April 2008 As it says in his bio page on www.atmoworks.com, “Vir Unis is a synthesist, drummer/percussionist, electronic groove creator, and sound
sculptor.” Vir Unis is John Strate-Hootman, and he has been one of my favorite electronic musicians for nearly a decade,
since his solo debut The Drift Inside in 1999. Whether doing haunting dark ambient or frenetic fractal grooves, whether working
alone or with others such as Steve Roach and James Johnson, Vir Unis has managed to keep his music fresh, exciting, and very
much alive. His bio page concludes with the statement “Vir Unis' goal is nothing less than to create 100% original electro-psychedelic
mind-body music.” A worthy goal, and one that I must say he accomplishes on a regular basis. I want to thank John for
taking the time with me for this month’s Electroambient Space interview. What does Vir Unis mean? Vir Unis is Latin for "one man" or "united man". I realized early on that this whole process I am going through is to become whole. Your bio on the AtmoWorks page mentions
you got your start in music as a drummer in synth pop and new wave bands. Any we might've heard of? No, they were all pretty much local bands in Chicagoland
area. Nothing of them really amount to much, despite all the intentions. I played a lot in bars and clubs though so it really did help me hone my skills as
a player somewhat. Did you do anything with synths at
that time, or were you strictly a drummer? I played both.
I started as a drummer, but then got quickly fascinated with synthesizers and would go back and forth between the two
in various bands. Your bio says after this period you
spent "several years in solitude". Was this an intentional isolation after being in bands? Yes. I
had enough with being in bands and needed to find what I had been searching for all along.
It was always myself left holding the bag as various musicians would always end up leaving because of a job or other
commitments. I was tired and needed a new energy.
Focusing on a more personal and ethereal sound seemed like the right thing to do for myself. I hadn't really heard much ambient music outside of (Brian) Eno, (David) Sylvian, and a few others, so
it was truly a pure exploration into this type of music that was born out of this isolation. How would you describe these early
experiments in sound? Do you still have these recordings, and what do you think of them? I have several boxes full of hundreds or thousands
of tapes and CDs. I think very highly of them.
It's the path that has led me to this moment right now. I've released
three CDs in the past couple years that focus on the early recordings. The first
one was called "Dreamers at the Edge of Decaying Light". The second was "Primary
Space", and the third was called "The Endless Days of the Mono Gods". I plan
on releasing more of these. Listeners tend to like them as they help tell a story
of how a lot of my music came to be. For me the joy is of rediscovery. Describe what it was like working
with Steve Roach, in particular the recording process for Body Electric and Blood Machine. Working with Steve was a lot of fun and gave me
the opportunity to have a platform for a new kind of music that I had been exploring for years. Steve is a good producer and obviously has an excellent ear for shaping mixes. I would develop submixes of fractalized grooves in Sony's Acid program and also would drop in another mix
of atmospheres I was working on. Steve would take the two of these and shape
them while adding on extra layers of textural works. Sometimes it was the other
way around, but mostly it was like this. Body
Electric was really an opening into a new world for me musically and Steve really helped make that happen. Blood Machine was a further refinement of the process we had
set in place in Body Electric and in Light
Fantastic. It has been a few years since you
two have collaborated. Do you have any plans to record together in the future? None at this time. GreenHouse Music, the label for your
first two solo releases, was excellent. What happened? I think the change in the music business, at all
levels had labels redefine themselves in the past couple years. Unfortunately,
a lot of well intentioned and interesting people were caught in this change and disappeared from the scene. However, Nathan Larson, from GreenHouse has gone on with a couple interesting net labels in the past year
or so. How did you and your cohorts come
to start AtmoWorks? James Johnson and I first started it as a way to
release music anytime we wanted in any format and in any length. Understandably
there are a lot of commercial restraints put on music that is released on record labels, even the so-called "indie" labels. Anytime you work with a third party you are now working with someone else's agenda. For some artists that's ok, and sometimes it's ok with me if it's a right fit. AtmoWorks has been pure freedom for myself and for James. It's my artistic home and will serve as such for many years to come.
James has left and now I am working with two long time friends and fellow artists, John Koch-Northrup and Matt McDonough. The vision with us three remains the same as it was when James and I started. It's very exciting and the possibilities are wide open. We are now starting to work with post ambient bands and venturing outside of the small genre of space music
type ambient. Some of my favorite recordings are
your collaborations with James Johnson, Perimeter and Perimeter II in particular. Now that he is pursuing interests outside
of AtmoWorks, does that preclude you two working in together in the future, or is the door still open to that possibility? James and I remain very close friends and have plans
to work on future projects together. We are still very much open to it and James
will probably release some work on AtmoWorks and also Hypnos. Describe your fascination with two
seemingly opposite styles in electronica, pure floating music versus active groove-oriented music. Do you have a natural inclination toward one or the other, or an equal propensity to both? How does your approach to these two types of compositions differ? To me, opposites always suggest unity, even
though it may be difficult to extract that unity from the deeper recesses. I
don't see a difference between the two. Rhythm free floats as atmospheres and
atmospheres move in rhythms, and obviously vice versa. The approach can differ
in so many ways it would be hard to pinpoint it down in a somewhat short answer. Not
to be elusive at all, I just can't put the approach down very easily in words. Although you have some more ethereal
themes, some of your music, particularly recently, has had a more personal touch. Describe
how having a family has changed you, both as a person and as a musician. Being a father has changed me a lot, but when you
really sit and contemplate change you realize it's more a process of becoming who you truly are. So this whole process of being someone's father and watching this wonderful process of consciousness developing
has given me the freedom to truly be me. Naturally, that affects my music deeply,
as ultimately the art I create and myself are one. What's next for Vir Unis? I want to do more live performances. I have one at the Butterfly Social Club here in Chicago with James Johnson.
It's an eco-friendly club and is run on solar and kinetic energy which is really great.
I love being a part of that. I have more collaborations set up and
as a solo artist I am integrating more of a performance based recording, recording a lot of material live in the studio and
completely improvised. I'm also producing a couple "rock" bands that are post-ambient
and kind of an 80’s feel to them. I'm working more in the producer role
with younger musicians here in the Chicago area and really loving that. I have
a background of playing in rock bands and it's interesting to see this come full circle and I can also offer an ambient perspective
as well. AtmoWorks will be releasing these bands' albums. It's great to see us expand the definition of ambient and hopefully reach a whole new crowd and generation
of listeners. It's something that the older artists of the ambient scene have
tried to do and utterly failed. This is something we will do. The ambient "scene", I believe, must expand. It has become
way too insulated and self absorbed and ultimately out of touch with the world. You
can see this in a lot of graphic and musical works that are being put out by these older ambient artists as something "new"
when they are quite dated and look like screensavers from Windows 3.1! They think
they are on the cutting edge and it's slightly embarrassing when you present this to a generation that has seen much more
sophisticated examples of sound and vision works in video games and higher forms of art.
So, what's next for Vir Unis is to expand and grow. What are the odds that
two, and now three, guys from a small town in Finland could come together and have such a similar musical vision, not to mention
such an affinity for astronomy? The Pauanne ambient happening in 2004 and 2005.
It was a sort of "shadow" happening for the big Kaustinen Folk Music festival...the huge folk festival was down there in the
Kaustinen valley and we were playing on a "mountain" beside the festival area. Pauanne is a very magical place, the only high
ground on the flat plateau of Kaustinen. We played there in the midnight both years. In 2004 we played on top of a huge rock
and in 2005 under a stone bridge (it was raining lightly). The music at both gigs gained a definite extra thanks to the surroundings.
Hopefully there will be a third Pauanne happening in the future...who knows. February 2008 Robert Scott Thompson Part 1 of ? Robert Scott Thompson has long been one of
my favorite ambient composers. If you’d like to know more about RST before diving into this month’s interview,
check out this excellent brief biography from his site. My asking Robert for an interview coincided
with his desire to start promoting his music more, which includes a major redesign and unveiling of his new website, which
is coming soon at www.robertscottthompson.com. Consequently, he had lots he wanted to share with EAS readers. His answer to
my first questions alone ran longer than most interviews I have given. Rather than wait to see how the rest of our conversation
unfolds, I wanted to bring you his first thoughts now, and as he and I have time to connect I will share his further musical
insights in the future. For now, enjoy Part 1 of my interview with Robert. First, Robert wanted to say a few words as a means
of introduction. Before I get into my responses to your questions, I want to thank you for the opportunity
to touch base with electroambientspace.com, your readers and listeners. It is
always a really great opportunity to do an interview such as this. It provides
a chance to reflect on what has been accomplished, renew vision and look to future projects. More importantly, perhaps, it
gives the artist a chance to place his or her work into perspective – mainly on a personal level but also within the
larger context of the field of contemporary music. Your welcome Robert. I love doing the interviews for EAS, because that’s what really brings the fans closer
to the musicians, and helps them appreciate the person and their motivations, taking them a step beyond just enjoying the
music itself, and hopefully bringing a deeper appreciation of it. Let’s
start by talking a little bit about your general approach to music. You are involved in a variety of different genres and
subgenres. How does that affect the way you work? It seems that the artistic life, at least for me, cycles through periods of intense concentration on “the
work” and periods of publication, archiving and dissemination – wherein perhaps there are more reviews, broadcasts
and occasional interviews. Increasingly, the opportunity to create new work takes
precedence over the corollary activities of releasing new records and sending out promo copies to radio and press and so on.
I like to periodically ‘switch (creative) gears’ as well. What I mean by ‘switching gears’ is that
due to the fact that I work in more than one basic genre of music – namely ‘popular’ and ‘serious’
– I find it useful to periodically change my mode of working in order to squarely attend to the requirements of the
opposite genre. In other words, if I have come from a cycle of working diligently
on recordings of ambient music (a serious undertaking that I consider an aspect of ‘popular music’) – such
as the period of 1995 to 1998 during which I recorded two complex projects for Oasis/Mirage within a relatively short period
– I will often wish to take a completely different approach to musical creation and engage in composing for chamber
ensemble or avant-garde electroacoustics. In the past, I was interested in maintaining a kind of careful compartmentalization of my
work into a handful of genres – pop music (what I refer to as “experimental pop music,” think: Before
and After Science or Bill Nelson’s work), ambient music (both classical ambient music, think: Apollo,
the Pearl, On Land and what others might – incorrectly - refer to as New Age music, especially when pop and ambient
sensibilities are melded), contemporary, or avant-garde instrumental music (in the spirit of high modernism – Messiaen,
Stockhausen, Cage, Xenakis, and so on) and electroacoustic music. This final category I used to refer to as “computer music,” until I concluded,
around 1989, that only a few of us thought of the term in the way I meant it (the mediation of musical processes and sound
objects through the use of computers, rather than USING computers to make music ~ something nearly everyone does these days
irrespective of genre or aesthetic intention). Basically, I became tired of answering
the question “Yes, but can a computer compose music?” In any case,
electroacoustics itself is so broad a term that many don’t agree on what it really means – as Leigh Landly points
out in his recent book “TITLE”. My work in electroacoustic music is most closely connected to the ideas of acousmatic
music as developed by Francious Bayle, Francis Dhomont, Pete Stolley, David Berezan and others, and is increasingly influenced
by the well-established context that is in firmly place in the U.K. and Europe. Is it
my imagination, or have things been quiet on the RST front the past 5 years or so? What
have you been up to? During the last five or so years there has actually been a great deal of creative activity. I have traveled quite a bit for my music – Prague, Paris, Bourges, Italy and within the U.S. There have been a number of key new releases and various kinds of activities that
have kept me busy. Affairs are certainly moving a bit more briskly than they were during the past few years
and there is a lot of energy going into creative projects now. My music is in
more coherent distribution this year, thanks to my collaboration with Lens Records as a primary partner (www.lensrecords.com). Recordings are starting to appear with more visibility in foreign markets and there is renewed interest.
My intention is that current efforts will translate to more broadcasts around the world, as well as articles, interviews and
review, which in turn will hopefully develop professional opportunities as well. I am currently discussing a collaboration with a northern European electronica label who
informed me, rather bluntly I might add, that no one in Europe knows my music! That
seems a reasonable conjecture given the plethora of artists and recordings worthy of a listener’s attentions. To familiarize
listeners both here and abroad, tell us about some of the releases you’ve done in recent years. Both The Silent Shore (1996) and Frontier were important recordings, and the
assistance of Oasis and Grant McKay to make them known to the public worldwide was essential and extremely helpful to me. They brought my music to a much larger audience than I ever had before. These recordings
are now released by Aucourant Records (www.aucourantrecords.com) and are available in the original form, as are my recordings released prior to them. After the 1998 release of Frontier on Oasis/Mirage, several recordings were released
that I think are significant and that are less well known today. One, Cloud Cover, under my pseudonym Fountainhead, is a really interesting recording that did not get much exposure
at that time. David Opdyke of AmbienTrance wrote that he found it to be very
‘dark and foreboding.’ I am not so sure I agree with his perspective on it, but I do think it is one of the deeper
records from the 1990s, much like Frontier. Also in 1998 was Aether, a recoding that included new mixes of a few tracks from the 1995 release Air
Friction along with new material. Aether might be more radio friendly
than some of my other works of this time period. Most of the music on Aether
has beats but all of the music is instrumental. In some ways Aether is the antithesis of Cloud Cover. Around 1999 I was very busy with work that would eventually culminate in the double CD on
EMF-Media entitled Acousma, released in 2001. However, there are also
some projects that were created during 1999 that are now coming out on CD in newly mastered and packaged versions. Among these
is Siren (Ambient) from 1999. This is a recording that I think might be
interesting for those into deep listening. It is one long, elaborate, evolutionary tone poem, made entirely from the vocalizations
of a jazz singer with no other sounds added. During this time period I was also beginning to look backwards into my catalog and develop
CD releases of some of the more interesting material. I have been recording since
1976, and I have a lot of material that originally was mastered on analog tape. I am working through this material, cleaning
it up, remixing and mastering what I am most interested in for CD publication. In
2000, In Ruins, the 1982 project that is perhaps my first serious and successful solo foray into classical ambient
music, came out as a double CD set. Now in 2008 it is newly published this year
on two separate CDs. Also in 2000 two ambient recordings of particular personal significant were created –
Blue Day and Alchemy. Because they did not have a label behind
them at the time of their release they have languished in near total obscurity. The
finances were not there at the time to promote these new recordings to the radio, or reviewers, as they needed to be –
with mass mailings and the kind of promotional effort that is often necessary but also so expensive. This is a kind of general
problem with the genre, as well as with others that are related. People simply do not purchase this kind of music in mass
quantities and those who might are content with mass marketed musicians to a large extent.
This makes it very difficult for the individual and independent composer and recording artist. It is possible that the Internet is beginning to level the playing field a bit, yet the jury is still out
on that. Of these two recordings, Blue Day, has been reviewed at Billboard.com by Jim Brenholts. In fact there are a number of helpful reviews of my music by Jim at the Billboard
website. For those of you who do not know Mr. Brenholts, he is a mainstay in the field – and he literally wrote the
book on this type of music – Across the Universe. There is no one
with more knowledge or love of this type music than he and he has listened to and reviewed literally thousands of recordings. In his review, Jim calls Blue Day my “most important” recording. I am not sure I would agree or know what to base this on, but I know which of my works
are important to me and this is one of them. It is gratifying that this recording
has found a modest number of fans since its release. Yet, it is so little known to the general ambient music fan base that
there have been few sales of the disc. Blue Day was originally released in 2000 and has recently been re-mastered and
repackaged. Hopefully more people will listen to it and add it to their collections.
One of the features of this recording is that there are number of shorter tracks but also some very long tracks – it
makes for a very unique flow to the record which was part of my concept when I created it.
A 25-minute track rarely gets airplay however! Interested people can listen
to excerpts from Blue Day at the Aucourant Records site here. Shortly following Blue Day, there was a flurry of new work, including a project that
I think is particularly beautiful. A friend of mine, who happens to be a famous
poet, favors this disc most among those he has heard – it is Alchemy, also from 2000. Alchemy is both episodic, in the sense that materials return over the course of the recording, and
developmental due to the fact that familiar materials return in new guises and forms.
The two key works that carry forth this process are Windswept and Summer Twilight. Interspersed are other compositions that develop a highly peaceful flow for the recording. It is more of a conceptual recording than Blue Day yet still retains a balance of new and recurring
musical materials. It is one of my personal favorites. Since about 1998, I had been in dialogue with Mike Griffin of Hypnos about a solo release
on the label. Several projects, including Blue Day were proposed, but none of
them really clicked. Finally in 2005, At the Still Point of the Turning World
was completed and released on the label. I spent a very long time composing and
developing the tracks on this recording and I am very pleased with the way it turned out.
There has been some strong broadcast support for the recording and some very good reviews as well. Yet, I think it may not be as well known yet as it might be. Some
projects take longer than others, obviously, this one occupied my time for at least a year! While Hypnos was busy putting the final touches on Still Point, I was busy producing
On the Keyboard ~ Piano Works of Joji Yuasa on Aucourant Records, which was also released in 2005. This recording presents the collected piano music of my mentor, Japanese master composer Joji Yuasa as
performed by Dr. Ronald Squibbs. It was a demanding and complex project and,
I think, an important contribution to the field of contemporary avant-garde music. This
last release you mentioned brings up a point - you released several non-ambient music albums during this time, did you not? Yes, parallel to this work in ambient music I was also releasing new projects in other
genres – namely avant-garde classical and electroacoustic – during this time. In 1998, the long-form ambient /computer
music crossover project Music for a Summer Evening was released (re-mastered and repackaged in 2007). This is one of a series of works that engages the notion of algorithmic composition within the ambient
music context. These are self-generative, long-form, works that develop a soundscape
through a simple process of musical stochastics (or the application of chance and probability). The selection of musical materials for Summer Evening was very carefully and deliberately achieved
but they are presented according to a probabilistic scheme. The resulting musical
soundscape is one that is enveloping, diverting and inviting. Two concepts are
at work in my music of this type – one is what Eno would refer to as ‘thinking music’ – music which compels thought but importantly allows for a space
in which thinking can actually occur and the other is ‘musique d’ameublement’ – a term coined by one
of my heroes, French composer Erik Satie – meaning ‘furniture music,’ sounds that can combine with the ambient
surrounds, blending-in with the knives and forks of the dinner table, filling the lull in conversation briefly to descend
into background sound once again. Summer Evening and other works of this
type invite both close listening (what some refer to as deep listening – almost as in meditation) and also casual use
as background ambience. I consider projects like Summer Evening to have ‘crossed the line’ over into contemporary
art-music, what I refer to as the avant-garde – even though it is likely
that this term is now out-of-date and no longer all that useful in contemporary parlance.
Nevertheless, I apply a different kind of aesthetic to this type of work and engage a different aspect of my compositional
technique when making this kind of project. The music is microtonal, does not
contain melodies, is based more-so on texture and sonic ‘screens’ and layers than on chord structures, formal
repetition and common musical forms. Even more firmly in the territory of ‘contemporary
music in the tradition of high modernism’ is the collection of chamber music Meridian originally published in
1999 and now in re-mastered re-release. This recording contains works for soloists
and duos for flute, piano, clarinet and tape, violin and viola. People interested
in my ambient music might well find music of interest in a recording such as this one; however, it is nothing like a project
such as The Silent Shore or Frontier, for example. Around the time of the release of The Silent Shore in 1996, I completed several electroacoustic
music projects that are now starting to be re-released in their original forms. The
first of these is Amorphia, from 1995, which includes a long-form work of over 30 minutes Wind in Trees, an
homage to composer Joji Yuasa who as I mentioned earlier is my mentor. One of my favorite
recordings of yours is Sidereal. I understand you have done something
interesting with the reissue. Tell us more about that. Sidereal. – yes, the period goes with the word in the title – is my long-form ambient
project originally released on the Space for Music label in 2002. It is difficult
for me to know how the recording fared originally. I am not sure if it was made
available to broadcasters and I do know that there were very few reviews. This
recording has just now been remixed and re-mastered into two new versions – ‘Continuous…’ and
‘Discrete…’ and has been published on Aucourant Records. The
‘Continuous…’ version presents the music as it was originally
on the Space for Music release – as one long, continuous sonic odyssey. For
the re-release on Aucourant Records, track indices were added, together with track titles to make the recording more approachable
for radio presenters. Originally, there was only one track ID and no titles. A second version has also been made which is even more appropriate for broadcast,
‘Discrete…’. This one has silences between the tracks
and also adds three bonus tracks to the play list. I am hopeful that there will
be renewed interest in this recording in the new versions. It has some really
interesting music on it. What
do you think about the state of the ambient and space music scene? It may be MY imagination, but it seems that after 2001, there was a general marked decline
in broadcast opportunities, a growing paucity of reviewers and reviews, and in general a kind of cooling-off of interest in
the whole field of ambient or spacemusic. People moved out of active participation in the field, due to overload and burnout
in some cases, and others have not taken their places, leaving only the stalwart, long-time broadcasters and reviewers in
place. A case in point is the close of AmbienTrance around 2000 – a wonderful review site that promoted a great many fine artists and recordings. I may
be wrong about this, or at least I hope that the field is enjoying a renaissance now.
It seems that now in 2008 things are picking up again – new releases of importance are once again stirring the
ears and minds of reviewers and broadcasters! In my opinion, this kind of music
is more important now in people’s lives than ever before. With the world
in such upheaval, uncertainty and transition, it is the music that allows the inner voices to be heard, the soul to wander
and imagine and the heart to be opened, this seems to me to be the most essential aspect of music of this type – as
a bridge to a new way of listening, seeing and believeing. It is interesting
and often disheartening to watch the reflection of our time in popular music and realize that it is a matter of exposure,
education and access that makes the music that we create seem less essential, distant and unimportant. There must be steps take to address this and Electroambientspace.com is one such place to do this. Artists need also to be cognizant of what they are attempting to do. So many are concerned
with making money, selling records and gaining fame. This is not really possible
within this genre and I dare say, that attempting to gain fame in music will make you “mad as a hatter” to quote
Todd Rundgren. This is the end of part one. Be sure to stay tuned for more from Robert in the months
to come! And watch for the unveiling of his new website soon, which as I mentioned will be at www.robertscottthompson.com. Thanks so much Robert for giving this interview,
and putting so much time and thought into it! ♫ January 2008 Telomere Hi Chris.
First of all, I can find virtually nothing about you on the web, just your site with brief info on your releases - no bios,
interviews, etc. Can you just tell EAS readers a little more about yourself? Where were you born and raised, where
do you live now? Do you have a family? What's your day job? Then we can get into the music stuff. What was the inspiration
for the name Telomere? The Serge has a wonderful sound and a great interface.
Perhaps the Serge is best known to space music fans for its soothing ambient sound, but like most modular synthesizers it
is capable of a wide variety of sounds, only a fraction of which I would classify as soothing or space-like. Conversely, most
any modular synth could be used to make a similar kind of space music, but I think the Serge has a unique quality that sets
it apart. This may be review
for the musicians reading this, but for less mechanically minded listeners like me, can you describe in a nutshell how you
make music on the Serge? I mean, all the photos I see on the web are just big metal cases with a bunch of inputs and
cables. How do you actually create the music? Do you just hook it up to a keyboard as the controller, or is there
more to it than that? What sort of music
do you like to listen to? What are your current favorites? Well, we certainly enjoy listening to the results of your musical
efforts, Chris. Thanks very much for this interview! ♫ Rene van der Wouden Nov 2007 For a biography and more information about Rene and his releases, check out his webpage at http://www.renevanderwouden.net/
Is it just my perception as an American,
or is there a disproportionately larger portion of the Dutch population who likes electronic music? If yes, why do you think that is?
I can't tell you the right answer but I think that countries like France, Belgium and Italy have an active electronic music scene too. I think we have some very good Dutch musicians of electronic music here in Holland like Remy, Gert Emmens, Free System Project and Ron Boots. Have you worked with any of the other
Dutch musicians on the EM scene? Yes I played a live concert together with Gert Emmens back in 2005 at E-Live which was fun to do. Over all I like to do composing on my own the most, but at the other hand I like to perform with others because I like the interaction between the musicians. Giving solo-concerts is nice for the audience to experience, but for most musicians it isn't and it's much more fun to play together, especially when people play different instruments. With the German EM-musicians Hajo Liese and Till Kopper at the first Gasometer Tower concert in Oberhausen we all three had different tasks. Hajo did sequencing, Till soloing and effects and I did the harmony. For the future I hope to do another performance with Gert Emmens when the occasion is there. I also would like to do a concert with Ron Boots or with Remy perhaps even more, because we're from the same generation. Time will tell. Is there a good English translation
for "van der," which seems a very common part of the name of several Dutch electronic musicians? Ah, that's a good question. I don't if there's an English equivalent of it. Best and most simple would be "of the", but I can't tell you for sure if this has got the same meaning as we know it in Dutch. There's a French one, namely as "DuBois". "DuBois" translated to Dutch means "van der Wouden". "DuBois" is a common name in the French speaking countries. You went from piano lessons as a boy
to playing synthesizers. Do you like the technical part of working with electronic gear and computers? Or do you sometimes
wish you could just pull up a stool to a piano and start playing, without all the hookups?
I still play the piano because I like acoustic instruments a lot. And yes, I do like the technical part of using synthesizers. Especially the way sounds can be shaped on a synthesizer of computer. At the other hand it's very challenging to play an acoustic instrument as well and make a fine piece of music with only one sound, i.e. the sound of a piano. Back to basic that is for me. When I was young my mother sent me to piano lessons for which I thank her a lot. First I didn't like it at all. I can remember that my first teacher had a nice dog called "Note". After a year I went to my 2nd teacher. This was a young guy who played in a band. I was 11 or 12 (1983-1984) at that time when he took his Roland Jupiter 6 (the last Jupiter, first you had the 4 and then the famous 8 and after than the 6). I was deeply impressed by the sounds it could make. I knew I wanted one of those as well. But as you can guess, those instruments were very expensive at that time. He has had a CASIO VL1 which was the first pocket calculator with a small keyboard and some sounds on it. Kraftwerk made a famous song with it. It's interesting that you note a fascination
with art, in particular the works of Dali. A certain famous Tangerine Dream founder shares this interest. Why do you think
these particular tastes in art and music intersect?
When I was 20 or 21 – I’m 35 now – I walked into a bookshop and saw several books about this special Spanish artist, as well books about Jean Miro and the famous architect Antonio Gaudi. I immediately bought the books and went home afterwards to read the stories and watch the pictures of art. What interests me most, is the fact that Spanish art is a bit different than those of other countries but also has similarities with the Dutch. It's both very colorful and lots of depth in it. I like that and while composing music I try to capture that synergy as well in my music. As you may know is that Salvador Dali was very fascinated by Sigmund Freud's "Interpretation of Dreams". Those dreams Dali had, were represented in the art of Dali. Dreams and pictures of the mind and of nature easily intersect with electronic music. Synthesizers are capable of generating surreal sounds. Dali, Magritte and Miro did the same with pictures, creating something from surreal to real; dreaming away for a few moments of worlds and spaces you haven't been before. My interest in Dali's art has nothing to do with the fact that Edgar Froese shares this interest as well. It's just like anyone else who’s interested in the works of Dali. But when I think of the fact that Edgar Froese spent hours together with Dali, jealousy is taking over me in great proportions, more than anything Froese or TD did afterwards. This rendezvous between those two great talents has given the world some beautiful things. How does art in other forms inspire
you to make music? Well I like architecture. Cities like Paris and Rome inspire me much because of the architecture and the way they communicate with the man. But also completely other forms of music like jazz and world music, classical and folk music gives me ideas for composing electronic music. Some things in art trigger me to write and produce new music, while other things get a visual place in my head after the piece is created. Painting and sculptures contain mostly those things. Also photography is an important part of my creative life. All the pictures in my album artwork have been shot by me. The artwork of "Pro Sequentia" and "Alchemia" are computed generated while the photos on "Recreation" were taken during the holidays in France in 2000 and Italy in 2001. In
addition to doing music, you started the forum EMPortal. How did that come about, what is your role in that, and how
is it coming along? I started the EMportal after the sad demise
of the EMforum. I always like the EMforum and its spin off projects like Analogy 1/2/3, and thought it was a pity that some
people were attacking others. The one and only reason I started EMportal was that a forum is essential for listeners and musicians
of electronic music. I never had the intention to take over anything from anyone. I think a forum works better than newsletters
or spam mail. And I am not a fan of MySpace or anything similar either. It’s one-way communication. Yes, I am on MySpace,
but only to support where I can. So within a few hours after I started, Vignoble
(Koos van Wijngaarden) joined in with the same thought I had in mind, creating a central meeting point for the EM scene. Those
who own older KLEM magazine issues from 2001 and 2002 can read my call for such a forum back then. But then I had no clue
whatsoever how to make this happen. So after I started, Vignoble said that he had some extra web space and the tools to make
this forum work. Right after this the third man, Stef, came in. He is an internet and computer pro – just like Kees
Aerts and James Clent of the EMforum, who did a great job for the whole scene – and Stef knows how to speak the language.
I don’t know much of this and was already happy that some things worked. After a month I stopped the administration
work and only continued the friendship with the others.
I love the Moog sound and most of all the Korg stuff, the synths like DW8000, T3, Wavestation, Trinity and Z1 models. One of the all time favorites for me is the Yamaha SY77 and its advanced FM-synthesis compared to the DX7. I personally think it’s doable to program FM-synthesis, but you have to take time and effort to get results. If you want to do things quickly, then FM synthesis will disappoint you. One important starting point in FM is that you have to get grip on the multi-stage envelopes which have rates and levels and the different volumes of the operators. In short FM has an algorithm with 6 operators assigned to a carrier or a modifier in significant order. One of those 6 operators, for example OP5 can be a carrier in one algorithm or a modifier in another algorithm. So if you change from one algorithm to another, you have to think and start all over again. That’s a challenge for me. My Kurzweil K2500 is simply one of the best sounding boards I own. I like the pristine sound quality, so a board must have top-notch DACS, that is, D/A converters. That’s really important to me. These days there’re lots of cheaper, especially DSP (digital sound processing) based synths which have great sound engines – like Alesis Micron, Roland SH201, and Microkorg – but due to the cheaper audio circuits they sound horrible. In the studio for producing good quality EM
I use an Apple computer and Logic 8 or MOTU Digital Performer software. Both programs can work easy with audio and MIDI at
the same time. Another vital part is the use of a high quality soundcard or better a external Firewire board like the MOTU
828 / 2408 or the Digidesign Digirack stuff. Especially analog sounds will have the benefit of (again) those better DACS.
Good CD examples of perfectly recorded CDs are for me Ron Boots’ “Acoustic Shadows” and Frank van Bogaert’s
“Nomads”. EM is about sound quality. I know some EM listeners who have HiFi sets which are more expensive than
my SAAB. Record as good as you can, for the audience.
I played at E-Live 2005 at the Glass Room
three times in a row and the last set was with Gert Emmens. In October 2006 there was a concert I did with Germans Hajo Liese
and Till Kopper (EL-KA) at the Gasometer Tower in Oberhausen Germany. This is an old gas tower 140 meters high and 80 meters
in diameter. It has one of the finest ambiances in sound I have ever heard. The reverb reflections are huge. I like to perform
in those special places. A normal theatre is good too, but these special locations add something you will never get at a normal
stage. But if an organization like E-Live asks me again to perform at the TU theatre I will not say no and I will be there.
2007 was a silent year for me, which I regret
because I like to play live anywhere, anytime I can. The core of getting EM heard is performing. If you don’t like performing
then don’t release CDs I always say, because your audience expects you to perform. I know some musicians who release
CDs but don’t want to play. In the long run both parties will be disappointed. The audience will go to the EM artist
who does perform. Will you do any collaborating in the
future, or do you think you will just continue to release solo works? I am open to do recordings together with other
musicians, but only when the artists get together in the studio. Sending over files via the internet and producing a track
together that way, is not something I would prefer. When you’re together in one room, you will encourage each other
more than sitting alone at home. Next to that I find it important that musicians work together because they like to, not that
one musician wants to benefit from another. I experienced this several times, and then I leave home and delete the parts I
did. Performing together with EL-KA is an example of people who wants to play together because they like to. The result is
not that important and releasing music will only be done when all 3 want to. It’s the fun that binds us together. What
also irritates me is that when people suggest doing something together and they repeat this wish every time you meet them
and nothing happens. My opinion is, if you’re going to ask someone then start as soon as possible. What is your current music project?
I just finished the new CD for the first half of 2008 which has the title "Universal Quiet". I finished composing, recording and mixing now and will master the final project sometime in December 2007. The CD is scheduled to be released in February or March 2008. The CD contains sequencer driven retro music in a style that's more personal than before. Real synthesized sounds from analog and FM-synthesizers and some Mellotron sounds are used only on this production. On other CDs I used all kinds of tools, from software to classic analog synthesizers, but this time I used a small set of electronics and the Apple computer to record it all. The theme of this CD is about silence all around people in a world that is faster and more polluting than ever before. So in general it's about the peace within the mind of man surrounded in the 24/7 economies of the world. I know it sounds a bit new age, but it isn't I can tell you. ♫ Sounds cool. Thanks, Rene, for the interview!
September 2007 Dennis Knopper (Spielerei)
Databloem was started in 2001 by Dennis Knopper in The Netherlands as an avenue for releasing new and talented artists in contemporary electronic music. He was later joined by Anthony Paul Kerby in Canada and the companion DataObscura label was formed. The label seems to excel at finding new talent in the ambient electronica genre, with a niche sound so clearly defined that I have Databloem as a genre on my iPod. When I’m in the Databloem mood, nothing else will do. So I was most interested to talk to the man behind the label and find out how this all started, and what’s next. Your webpage information lists FAX as an inspiration. In
what ways did you want to be similar to FAX, and in what ways did you set out to make Databloem different?
I was impressed by the label’s sound and concept, and how the label managed to release so frequently and still keep up the quality. The main difference would be that I primarily wanted to focus on new talents in the scene, while FAX also worked with established names such as (Bill) Laswell, (Richie) Hawtin and (Klaus) Schulze.
The music on Databloem and its associated labels is remarkably consistent in tone. Is this primarily a product of your selection criteria? And
what is it exactly that you look for, can you put it into words?
It's a feeling, hard to describe. First there's a certain quality level in production the music should live up to but the main criteria's are originality, composition and continuity. The music should tell a story and excite me, rather than just doing the right things musically and technically. For example, I have deep respect for good Berlin school but it just doesn't excite me anymore. For me, electronic music is all about experimentation and creativity without formulas or boundaries. I'll never forget the excitement when I listened to Schulze's Timewind at the local record shop. I had never heard anything like it before.... How many demos do you get in, say, a week or a month? Has
that changed over time? And what percentage of submitted demos eventually ends
up accepted by your label?
Some weeks we receive no demos, some weeks we get ten – it hasn't changed much over time. I would say 10% is suitable for release but I only have limited time and budget to release all the suitable stuff that comes in. This is the hard part, disappointing people.
Without naming names, what is the worst demo you ever received - anything really stand out that
you care to mention? Hmm... I do get demos which don't connect to the label style in any way but all are treated with respect and I try to reply to all people who send in demos. And I do remember a very good demo I would have been interested in releasing but unfortunately without an address or telephone number to reply to. You record as Spielerei. Was that a major influence
on your decision to start your own label, so that you could release your own music?
No. I've been listening to electronic music since my childhood but actually I'm a singer/songwriter/guitarist and never had the intention to compose or release electronic music. Only shortly after I started Databloem, I bought a Nord Lead synth and recorded my first ambient pieces. Reactions from other artists were so positive that I decided to release some of it. How did your collaboration with Mantacoup, called Wichman and Other Pieces, come about?
We occasionally meet and share thoughts and music. Jeroen (Mantacoup) is good when it comes to interesting rhythms and has a crispy IDM sound, which blends very well with my atmospheric, minimal style. So, we decided to do an album together. We were both very surprised to see this album high in the ambient charts; we received lots of positive reactions. Recently we released a second, more dark and conceptual album, on the Silentes label called Cold War.
Do Databloem acts, as a general rule, play live venues? If
so, where? Unfortunately, I've never heard of any of them coming to the states,
and wondered if that might happen, or if economics and logistics prevent it.
Yes, we try to get our artist on stage wherever we can. Getting our unknown artists lined up at festivals and venues isn't easy though. Also, the number of festivals/venues and visitors has decreased dramatically the last few years. Yeah, the economics and logistics are the main problem...it's hard to break even on the costs. However, Mathias Grassow is looking at the possibilities of touring in the US, probably together with Jason Corder (Off the Sky) – sounds like a great duo to see live, two generations of electronic music. Yes, it sure does, that would be great. So how does it work having the two main operators of Databloem
being thousands of miles apart, you in the Netherlands and Anthony in Canada?
It works but not being able to meet face to face isn't the ideal situation. There are so many things to handle and discuss, and being on two different continents really slows down the process. Initially we worked together producing albums but the last few years Tony has been focusing on dataObscura, while I've been mainly been working on Databloem. We help each other wherever we can when it comes to production, distribution and promotion.
What do you like most about
running your own record label?
Originally you had just the two labels, Databloem and dataObscura. Explain the difference between the two, and how you decided what to release on each.
We had lots of good music to release but not the budget to release it all on CD. Tony came with the idea to start a CDR sub-label. Tony isn't just one of the best artists in the scene but also one of the most productive. It's really amazing how he manages to compose and produce so much high quality music. Having the possibilities to do short runs gave us the opportunity to get more of his and other more experimental and less popular stuff out there, without having to worry much about breaking even on the costs. You have now expanded into more sub-labels, Practising Nature and Bluebox, closely aligned with
musicians Mathias Grassow and Amir Baghiri in Germany. How did that come about,
and do you foresee further expanding your electronic music kingdom in the future?
I'm a huge fan of Mathias’ and Amir's music and when the possibility came up to work with them I felt honored. Although both are very talented artists, they don't exactly match the Databloem profile of "new artists in contemporary electronica." So, we thought it would be better to create a sub-label for these occasions. Both have been developing and creating a new sound though, and slowly moving away from traditional ambient. Expect some very exciting stuff from these two in the near future!
Tony and I both have lots of plans and ideas for expanding and improving our "electronic music kingdom". The www.databloem.com website is the best place to keep informed. ♫
Thanks Dennis for the interview, and for thinking in English for me! -P.D.
Hashtronaut interview August 2007 Hashtronaut
is Michael “Mick” Daniel, an electronic musician from Liverpool UK. When not making very good Berlin school and
ambient music, he spends time on his Hashtronaut online diaries, with entries ranging from the everyday to the mysterious.
It is hard to tell where the line between fiction and reality begins and ends. So
to try to unravel the mystery a bit, Electroambient Space took some time recently to get to know the man behind the music. So
who is Hashtronaut really? Hashtronaut is an everyday person, who really is
just beginning to 'get it'. And this getting it has very little to do with music, but also has an awful lot to do with life.
Its only now at 34 that I am starting to get the faintest glimmer of what it's all about. Also, I am starting to see the patterns
and parameters that I operate within on a daily basis, which is something I could not do before 2006, which will forever be
'The dark Year' for me and my immediate family. Hashtronaut is also a continuation of my musical
side, which began a long time ago. I am primarily a guitarist, and most of my dad's side of the family are musical. For a
long time I just played for myself, and then formed a succession of bands: Umbra, Couch, Acuphaze. Acuphaze was a band that
I put an awful lot of time into, it was a space rock type of band – a friend who I heard the demo's a short while back
christened it 'Hashwind', because it was very Hawkwind-ish, which is just fine by me. However, the vocalist in that band just
couldn't accept the fact that there were periods where he would not be required on stage, because the 'space' element in a
band is usually characterized by instrumental music, as well as electronic effects. All this caused arguments which eventually
made everything implode. Immediately after this I went into my little studio place and recorded the most horrendously noisy
piece, 'Report From An Unknown Planet' which featured detuned radios, recordings of scratched CDs, feedback, just anything
you could think of, to vent my frustration at the break-up of the band. It owes more to Japanoise-avant-garde / psychedelic
underground styles than Berlin or EM in general. During this preparation time for Acuphaze, I had also invested quite heavily
in a projection light show for the band, and that never got an outing either, so at the time I was not a happy bunny at all.
Looking back, 'Report...' was just a good way to
get rid of all this bile and vitriol that had built up. I then pressed 50 copies under the Hashtronaut name, the covers were
printed out at work when no one was looking, and in the meantime I had stepped in playing guitar in Nanmess, which while I
was there featured three of the four members of Umbra/Couch, so it was kind of a full circle, although we were playing much
more straightforward rock music. I was never really happy there; it was a pretty boring time learning someone else's parts,
even if it was a good discipline. I would give 'Report' away for free to people at Nanmess gigs. The same with the next discs
up to the Lambda Variant, which was the first of my online sales, although these follow up discs were more in the Berlin School
style. I didn't get my first PC until about 2003, and that was cannibalized from other people’s...and then I established
a website the following year. I'm a slow starter. As a result of
'The dark Year' in which I nearly lost Lindz when she had a really near-the-line bout of near fatal bad health, I now
no longer smoke dope, or take any type of drug, so ironically, am I still really Hashtronaut? Perhaps time will tell. Your
Hashtronaut diaries are quite detailed. How do you find the time for family,
music, and the diaries, not to mention anything beyond that? The diaries are usually written during the day when
I should be working harder at my day job. I am lucky insomuch as the job I am currently in allows me to compile thoughts as
I have them, put them on an e-mail and send them home to be entered onto the site, which I usually do on a Sunday evening.
Not every Sunday, but at least once a week. I can now get a week’s worth done in about an hour and a half, less depending
on the amount of photographs that are posted, as they are all sized individually, and other little tasks that need to be done.
One purpose of the diaries is to show that a musician has no special qualities that set him aside from anyone else. He is
not different to a street cleaner, or some other occupation that many would see themselves above – and I am not belittling
street sweepers here, we would be in poor shape without them – who also has the potential to make music every bit as
good or bad as anyone else. The diaries also maybe give clues as to how I work, that music happens in my life despite who
I am and what I do, not because of it. Another purpose of the diaries is to show that I have no ‘side'. It’s just
me on display to the general public, no barrier between musician and listener, or reader. I would hope that people enjoy reading
them in the same way that they maybe watch Big Brother. The project is currently to complete a year's worth of entries, but
it may go beyond that. The diary is also a result of 'The Dark Year'. It was a discipline that kept me sane. On my days off, we try to get a bike ride or some
other family activity done, even just a bit of shopping together, but as a rule we spend them together, which is always a
pleasure. There is always something to do. The park is another favorite in the summer. Simple things – they are the
easiest things to take delight in. I love my family, but I can, like most men, be a bit poor at showing it sometimes, something
I try to remedy and refine every day, not always successfully. I try to be a good dad and partner though. Evenings that are
not spent at the vault – my studio – are usually spent at home. I'm not one for being out at the pub. When it comes to the music, I try to get to my recording
space at least twice a week, three times in an ideal one. Those are long days, as I am up at 6:30am for work, finish at 4:00pm,
over to the studio by 5:00pm and then record until midnight, or later, the early hours if I cycle home. I don't usually get
into my stride till about 8:00 or 9:00pm, and many times in there nothing has been happening till very late when I suddenly
hit upon something, and I have to follow it through. That can be as tiring as it is rewarding. But ultimately, it is rewarding.
I really would like to have a larger house than the one we actually live in at the moment, though. I have never had the luxury
of my recording place being part of my living space, which so many other people probably take as a given. Also the name of
my space is '220 Vault' as it really is a vault, underground. I had a couple of emails the first time I mentioned it's name,
saying 'That's not how you spell volt!'. Just while we are talking about the Vault, It can be extremely spooky down there
at 2:00am in the morning. All you can hear when it’s quiet is the shutters in the wind upstairs at street level, and
the dark down there is absolute. I always have a torch handy, I would not want to be in there totally blind. I was in there
at about 2:00am one morning, and a friend of mine who I've known since school and been in a few bands with, came to the vault
after a gig to crash there, and I have my gear set up with my back to the door. I just felt a hand on my shoulder, and f-ck
me, I was clinging to the ceiling. I have returned the favor since then, and it looks like it’s going to be a running
gag between us. I can feel a little guilty sometimes over going to the vault, as on a work day I am up before everyone, back
after everyone in the house has gone to bed, and back up again the following morning for work, again before anyone else. I
don't see them until 5:00pm the next day. Sometimes it feels like two days without seeing Lindz or 'The Keester' as my 9 year
old sometimes refers to herself. This is a big downside of not having a recording space at home. We've
talked about your latest (now second latest, with "Soundcheck 1970" now available) piece of music, "Event One." You refer to it as a new beginning for Hashtronaut. What do
you mean by that? Many different things! 2007 has been a new start
in so many different and important ways. Most importantly, my partner was critically ill in 2006, as I said earlier. It was
far too close for comfort. Doctors were baffled until the 11th hour, and we really thought that we were going to lose her.
I can’t even get my head around it now, it actually hurts to think about it, and I know that it all still overwhelms
Lindz; it’s bound to. So we were lucky, we get to be back together all over again after our being separated while this
illness dragged on and on. I am very grateful that the three of us are still together. I, she, we - we are all extremely lucky. Secondly, earlier on I mentioned I was a guitarist
who had more or less stumbled into EM by accident through the style the rock bands I had formed were taking – although
I am au fait with EM in general). All the albums before 'Event One' were recorded with the most basic equipment – a
CS1X synth, a QY70 sequencer, and an old Juno. Guitar FX pedals were used to try to increase the palette, but by 'Bottle Universe'
I had pretty much pushed that little bit of kit that I had as far as it could go. The same week ‘Bottle Universe’
was released, it became clear that Lindz would need a major heart operation, and all the promotion for that album was just
knocked in the head, a few token posts I think, and that was about it. The rest of the year, well I don't want to go into
it...just awful times. Even though life was set to return back to normal at the end of January, it’s taken far longer
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