Howard Stern 6 Oct 1995

HS = Howard Stern
MB = Marty Balin
PK = Paul Kantner
RQ = Robin Quivers
DM = Diana Mangano
JC = Jack Casady
JM = Jackie Martling

HS: Guys, am I supposed to call you the Jefferson Starship 
    or the Jefferson Airplane?
MB: Jefferson Wheelchair.
HS: Come on, be honest. Jefferson Airplane?
PK: Yeah, we're the Jefferson Starship right now.
MB: We're just the Jeffersons now.
PK: We stole the name back.
MB: The Jeffersons.
HS: The Jeffersons - like the TV show.
MB: Yeah, that's us.
PK: We had to rip...yeah, the Jeffersons.
RQ: Where's Weezy?
MB: (as George Jefferson)  We're the Jeffersons, baby!'
HS: But none of you are black.
PK: (singing)  Movin' on up!'
MB: Um-humm!
HS: The white Jeffersons.
MB: (as George Jefferson)  Weezy! Weezy! Weezy, play that thing!'
HS: Now whose daughter is your, uh, new singer?
MB: That's Jack's daughter.
HS: Wow! Hubba, hubba!
PK: Diana - Howard, Diana
MB: We're breaking her in.
HS: Where'd you find Diana? Now Grace is out of the band, right?
PK: No, she's resting right now.
HS: She's resting somewhere?
PK: Yes.
RQ: Yeah, how is Grace? The last time...
PK: And she's studying, Grace is studying.
RQ: ...her house burned down, didn't it?
MB: Yeah.

HS: Mickey we hate, right?
PK: Mickey's gone.
MB: No, no, we don't hate Mickey.
PK: We don't hate Mickey.  We don't hate anybody.
MB: I'm good friends with Mickey.
HS: Really?  I never liked Mickey.
PK: Yeah, I know. 
HS: Sorry.
PK: Has a good voice. 
HS: Good voice, but ...
PK: No brain.
HS: ...he didn't have - Yeah, exactly, he didn't have...
PK: That's what Grace said.
HS: That's what you're saying too.
PK: And Grace worked with him more than me.
HS: That's what you're saying too.  No, I'm just saying that...
PK: He's from the South, what can I say.     
HS: What happened with him, though?  I mean, you guys were 
    having hits with him, and everything, I mean, it's just...
PK: Well Marty left me,  and then Grace left me,  and I sort of 
    went into it, like, you know on 'Dallas' when Larry Hagman had
    that bad dream...         
HS: Right.
PK: ...and he woke up the next season and it was all over?
HS: Right.
PK: Sort of like that.
HS: It was like that.
PK: I had to rip the name back out of the universe, and here we are.
HS: So Mickey's going around touring as Jefferson Starship?
PK: No, he's Starship featuring Mickey Thomas.
HS: Starship featuring Mickey Thomas.
PK: Right.
HS: Oh, that's not right.     
PK: DA, da, DA, da, DA...
HS: You guys are the Starship, let's be honest. (applause)
PK: That's what was the problem all the way around.
HS: Thank you, of course! Oh, there's so much intercine (sic) battles!
RQ: I know (sigh).
PK: (laughs)
RQ: Who's going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame when these guys go in?
HS: Are you guys going to be the Hall of Fame?  You guys are going 
    to make it into the Rock and Roll Hall of fame...
PK: No, They turned us down...
MB: I doubt it.
PK: ... a couple of times...
RQ: Really?
HS: What?
PK: ...and I take really poorly to, ah, to rejection.  I probably 
    won't even go.
DM: Lame!
HS: The Jefferson Airplane was turned down?
PK: Can you (imagine)?  Well, see,  you know Jann Wenner's story
    on little boys and everything and New York...
HS: Right.
PK: ...and he left San Francisco,  and he got out of the San Francisco, 
    and he really looks back on his past like it's, he came from
    the backwoods and he can't face up to the fact that he came
    from San Francisco.
HS: Well I don't know...
PK: So he doesn't have any respect for San Francisco.
HS: No, it was brought out that he was gay, not with little boys. 
    Thank you. I just wanted to make sure...
PK: Medium, medium sized boys.
RQ: (Unless) you all know something we don't.
HS: With men, with men...
PK: Medium sized boys! 
HS: Oh, be fair, be fair!
PK: Models.
HS: Be fair...Models, that's OK.


PK: China wishes you well, too, she said me to give you, 
    she said to say hello.
HS: Thank you, she's a nice girl.
PK: And give you a hug. She got rid of her satanic boyfriend.
HS: Good!
PK: She's in the new Terms of Endearment with Jack Nicholson...
HS: Really?
PK: ...who Grace is after as a groupie now for guru China.
HS: Are we having an inside conversation here, or what?
PK: She told me, she told me to send you this information.
HS: (laughs) By the way, I'm very attracted to your new singer.
PK: Yeah, so are we.
HS: Who won't sing, by the way, on the air. Is that true?
RQ: Why?
PK: Yeah, she's going to sing.
DM: Yeah.
PK: What do you think she's doing here?
HS: You will only sing with the group, but you will not sing solo, 
    is that correct?
DM: Correct.
HS: Why is that?
DM: Cause the group is the group.
HS: Are you intimidated by, uh, doing some of the Grace Slick 
     mus(ic) material, uh, do you feel that you can't do it?
DM: No, no that's not it, I do it all the time.
PK: She can kick ass with it.
DM:It's just a matter of I'd like the whole group to play, 
   since they're all standing here.
HS: Well, the whole group is going to play.
DM: Yeah, that's right. No, I want them all to sing.
RQ: We can't have a medley that includes one of those songs?
HS: We'll see if I can't make that happen.
PK: Don't mess with her Howard, she'll kick your ass.
HS: Let's do as couple of songs first so everyone can get in the mood.
PK: They said you wanted a bunch of old songs. We were ready...
HS: Well, some of the hits.
PK: We were going to do 'Crown of Creation', since the pope's in town.
HS: Well, what about...
PK: Maybe 'Volunteers', or whatever you like.
HS: Volunteers I love.
PK: That's good. You can sing along.
JC: How about  We Built this City'?
DM: Yeah! (Laughs)
PK: Jack's gonna sing  We Built this City' for you.

    Crown of Creation

HS: Wow!
JM: Whoo! 
HS: Hey, you guys sound good! I like that, man!
MB: The early sound.
PK: The early sound.
HS: I dig that!
PK: Here, I gotta get this retuned, though.
HS: How come?
PK:  Cause it doesn't have a tuner.
JC:  Cause he doesn't know how to tune it himself.
PK: Gotta put, gotta put a thing on...
HS: How come?
PK: ...and I gotta give a job to Steve here.
HS: Ya mean you gotta retune for a different thing or song or something.
PK: Yeah, we're gonna talk to you. You want me to tune for, 
    while we're talking?
HS: Yeah, that's cool.
PK You know how it is (mimics sounding of tuning).
HS: I don't care, I don't care about tuning. I don't think you.
    have to tune anything.
PK: Yeah, we'll do Volunteers for Howard.
HS: I think everything is music, ya know.
PK: (laughs)
HS: I just think anything goes, that's my whole musical philosophy. 
    Yeah, the new babe is hot. Who picked her out?
PK: She picked us out, actually.
DM: I picked them out.
HS: Really?
PK: Yeah.
HS: What's your story? How old are you?
PK: Walked right up to us.
DM: Twenty, uh, seven.
HS: So, like, do you worship these dudes, or what?
DM: Ummmm.....
JC: Not now!  
PK: Not anymore!
DM: (laughs) Yeah, exactly! Thank you, Jack.
HS: So you got a boyfriend?
DM: No.
HS: Hmmmm....
DM: No. Hmmmm....Wanna go out on a date?
HS: Yes, I do.
DM: Okay.
PK: (laughs)
DM: Well, anyway, um, yeah...
HS: She's hot, huh?
MB: Um-hmmm.
HS: You like that?
MB: Yeah, you should see her on stage.
HS: Yeah! I'd like to.
DM: Lots of back bass.
HS: (as OJ) I would love to.
PK: We'll be at the Beacon somewhere in the winter.
DM: Well, come to our show.
PK: We'll invite you down.
HS: Yeah, please, I wanna hang with you.
PK: If it's not too late for you.
HS: Maybe I'd take to the stage with you guys, maybe we'll jam.
PK: We'd love to have you.
HS: We'll jam out, I'll bring my axe.
PK: (laughs)
HS: That's guitar.
RQ: He brings a real axe.
JC: Bring a guitar, too.
HS: I'll bring my real axe. I'll chop her up on stage, man. 
    That's cool, like kind of an OJ thing, it'd be wild.
RQ: (laughs)
HS: You guys upset about OJ?
PK: I, I, we're...
DM: We were in another country when that happened.
PK: What'd Darden say? "I'm not upset".
HS: You're not upset?
PK: "I'm not wa wa wa..."
JC: And you know he's not angry.
PK: "I'm not competent." This guy was so bad!
HS: Who, Darden?
PK: He was like a sophomore debater in high school.
HS: You don't think he was good.
PK: He was embarassing.
HS: Do you really think he was embarassing, or was it just that
    the jury was, is predisposed to finding him innocent?
PK: No, no, no, ...Come on, this is the justice system of America.
HS: Really?
PK: You gotta take what you get.
HS: You guys are hippies, I forgot.
MB: You got money, you can buy justice.
PK: No, I don't, I don't...
HS: You guys are hippies, right? Cool.
PK: This is part of the chaos of the new dark ages we're in...
HS: Cool!
PK: ...and you gotta accept these things.
HS: You know, I forgot what hippies you guys are.
PK: Chaos is love.
HS: That is cool!
DM: Ha!
JM: Hee hee hee!
RQ: These are the guys who kept walking away from all the money, Howard.
PK: No, Marcia Clark...no, actually, whoever walks, it would 
    have been good to see one of them go slinking off into the future.
HS: Did you guys, did you get, did you get to go to Jerry Garcia's funeral?
PK: Uh, I spoke at it, acutally.
HS: Really?
PK: I read a poem at it.
HS: Was it cool? Like, did you get to meet cool celebrities?
PK: Yeah, it wasn't really like a funeral, it was just like, 
    out in the park, like everybody doing sort of what hippies do,
    you know, in the park.
HS: Really?
PK: And...yeah, it was pretty nice.
HS: Did you guys smoke bongs and stuff at the...
PK: Of course. Duh?
HS: Did you really?  Have bong hits?
PK: I was the only one there.  These guys live, Marty lives in Florida...
HS: What's your story, Marty?
PK: ...Jack is in LA.
HS: Oh, really? So you guys just get together and make the album 
    and everything? And then go out on tour?
PK: We get together to do a lot of things.
HS: OK.
PK: Here we are!
HS: You got to talk at Jerry Garcia's funeral, huh?
PK: Oh, I read a poem, a little poem.
RQ: What did you say...Oh, a poem.
HS: A poem! Why don't you say something from the heart?
PK: I did that too.
HS: Oh, you did?
PK: Yeah.
HS: What did you say?
RQ: What did you say?
PK: Actually, I miss, uh, Sam Kinnison much worse. (Laughs)
HS: So do I!
PK: Although, uh, Jerry, you know, we miss him.
HS: Everyone will miss Jerry, but of course we miss Sam Kinni...
    Sam Kinnison.
PK: He had a good life.
RQ: That's right, we're still not over Sam.
PK: He had a good life.
HS: Yeah. Did you ever do, did you ever get high with him?
PK: Duh!
HS: Countless times.
PK: Catholics!
HS: Really?
PK: Now the pope's in town, that good. Catholics.
HS: What happened, you had that whole brain thing, right?
PK: Yeah, I had a brain thing, I had a ...
HS: Are you over that, or are you still with it?
PK: I was supposed to die, I had, like, guys hovering over me
    with scalpels, and ...
HS: Can you believe that you outlived Jerry?
PK: Of course. 
MB: (Laughs)
HS: I...Do you remember the whole thing?
PK: I run motorcycles...
RQ: Vaugely!
MB: Depends on what drugs you do.
PK: Howard, I run motorcycles into walls.
HS: Paul had, like, like he had half his brain removed.
PK: What do you call it?
RQ: A brain aneurism?
PK: I didn't, they didn't go in.
HS: They didn't go in?
PK: They didn't go in. What do you call it?
JC: You never told us!
PK: When you have a blood vessel burst in your brain?
RQ: It was a brain aneurism.
DM: Aneurism!
PK: Aneurism! 
HS: Wonder why that happened?
JC: See, you can't even remember that!
PK: Well, uh, I was doing it with, with my son's mother, uh, at the time.
HS: You were having sex.
PK: Just like Nelson Rockefeller.
HS: No kidding?
PK: And what a time to go, if you're gonna go, right?
HS: And your brain exploded?
PK: And my brain exploded.
HS: Did you pass out?
PK: Uh, no, I started getting a headache and I told her, I think,
    I told her, I think I'm getting an aneurism. She said 'Oh, come on!'
HS: 'Come on! Man, we're having sex.'
RQ: (laughs)
PK:  Take an aspirin, or something'.
HS: Don't you have a better excuse for not wanting sex?
PK: So I, so I, so I took, so I took an aspirin, and it got worse, 
    and so she called, and they were going to take me to L.A. General,
    right? She said, 'No, you take him to Cedars Sinai, and
    get him right into Johnny Carson's room, and get him
    under the scope.'
HS: Really?
PK: And she took care, she saved my life, and we later had a kid together.
RQ: Hmmmm!
HS: Cool!
PK: Yeah. 
HS: Did you dump her yet, or...
PK: Oh, long ago.
HS: Oh,good. Smart move. (Laughs)
PK: Don't worry, she's great. She's the one that arranged us      
    to be on your show...Cynthia.

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