Fedora Core 8 on Dell Latitude D820
( f.welland at verizon dot net )
Created on: Sunday November 11, 2007
Last update on: Wednesday, November 21, 2007
|Works out of the box with x.org 'nv' driver. Graphical installer works well too. compiz/'Desktop Affects' required some tweaks|
|CPU||Intel CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz||Works|
1920 x 1200
|Works out of the box at 1920x1200 resolution|
|Hard Drive||Hitachi HTS721010G9SA00
Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition
|Works out of the box|
|Wireless||Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG||works OK! (with iwl3945)|
BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
|Works out of
|DVD RW||NEC DVD +/- RW ND-6650A||CD seems OK -- DVD & Write tests still pending|
|IRDA||Do not know (not sure I care)|
|Modem||Do not Know (not sure I care)|
|Touchpad||AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint||Works out of the box|
|Keyboard||Works out of the box|
FC6, and FC7. So
why not FC8?
Like before, portions of this are just a copy-n-paste from my other pages. These older pages are still somewhat relevant; so readers may want to check those pages out.
The FC8 install, just worked for me and my hardware. As you can see from the above matrix, all my hardware was deteched and suitable or working drivers were installed. FC8 has been the smoothest to install RedHat/Fedora release yet!
there to see what I did. Again, the only prep step I took before the install, was to back up my FC7 stuff to my home-grown NAS thing. Once again, I didn't back up anything in my WinXP partition -- there really wasn't anything of value to loose there if things went wrong (they didn't). Someday, I hope to do a write up on my NAS thing; it really makes these sorts of upgrades go much smoothly.
I did let the installer reformat the partitions.
There is not much to add; I just followed the intaller making my selections and then let the install 'do its stuff'. Well one note: during the package selection stuff (I always do 'custom' and select the stuff I want), I did select to include the 'Additional/Extras'. This was good and bad. Good in that I had tons more stuff that I normally install later, installed initially. Bad, in that it take way longer to browse through all that stuff picking the package you want. Bad in that, when you select something not on DVD, then installer sometimes has long pauses, while it is downloading RPMs, where it almost looks like the installer is hung.
On first boot I did do the following:
Some AnnoyancesNo beebs! That means I have nothing to say here. Wait, on 11/17/2007 I noticed the beeps again! So here is how to suppress most of them:
Wait here is something else that is annoying: F8 has weirdo package dependancies. I bunch of stuff got installed; even stuff that I had explicitly ommitted during package selection! I didn't worry too much about it, during the install; thinking that I must have made a mistake and I would remove them later. Well, after the first few reboots, I spent some time with yumex in attempts to remove a bunch of packages that I don't want/need. I was surprised to see stuff like NetworkManager depending on package like Evolution-dataserver. Yeah I know packages often install libs that get used by lots of other things, but arguably, they should be broken up differently....such as it is...
COMPIZ Works Nicely
I didn't try to see if the 'nv' driver can handle compiz -- I don't think it can. Simply installing the nvidia driver didn't allow compiz to work either. Using the tweaks I made under F7, works fine. Basically I just re-used my F7 my xorg.conf file. I'll be trying compiz-fusion soon -- I had it woking OK under F7......
....Well, I have been running compiz-fusion for a week or so; it seems stable and is quite nice. To run compiz fusion, I did:
On 11/19/2007, I upgraded to the 169.04 beta driver. I am pleased to say it works well! I has appeared to clear up some of the full screen flash/flickers that I have been experiencing from time to time. These flickers seem harmless -- no crash and X/Gnome/compiz all appear fine.
(11/21/2007) Turns out those flashes and flickers I spoke of above, have not gone away. There may be some driver issues/bugz related to nVidia 7xxx GPUs and multi-core processors. For me, this flickering is just an annoyance and doesn't cause any crashes or freezes. Here are some references:
NOTES & Questions:
I have both Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05) and Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_13-b05) installed. Both JDKs were installed from the .bin installers. Finding and hacking the file
Note: I haven't experience the Swing drawing problem discussed here: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2j8bn/D820-F7.html#Java -- but I only tested with SwingSet2 demo application. Also the above hack doesn't install or configure the browser plugin -- that is a different step.
Well, Netbeans 6 Beta 2 would not install with JDK 1.5. Running the installer via something like
Using JDK1.6 (via --javahome option while running the installer) worked fine (w/o AWT_TOOLKIT hack). In the few minutes that I have used it, it seems to run quite well under 1.6. The 1.6 vs 1.5 isn't too much of a problem, most of my serious works is built via ANT anyway where I strictly control the VM I compile with.
HANG! The bad kinda hang that require a hardware reboot.
Long story short, using some of the 3D or openGL screensaver cause a hang condition if you run compiz. No I have no links to bugs or forum posts about this issue; but the problem isn't unique to me. Worse yet, even previewing the screensaver in the small window in the screensaver applet causes the problem. Further, once focus selects a screensave module from the left hand side list box, it is 'set'. So you are hosed: when the screensaver kicks in -- hang. When you go to change the module in the screensaver applet -- hang!
After a few hard reboots and thinking a bit, it dawned on me: